Party $33, first hand of tourney

Steve · #1 08-26-2005, 06:13 PM

Pokerstove says it was 51%/49% on the flop. Should I have bet at that flop? If so, what to do when raised? I hate flipping a coin on the first hand of a tourney.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

Hero (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls t15, 3 folds, Button calls t15, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t60) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t65, BB folds, MP1 raises to t130, Button folds, Hero goes all in, MP1 calls.

Turn: (t1660) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1660) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1660

Steve · #2 08-26-2005, 06:14 PM

Oh BTW villian had KsQd

unreal_nh · #3 08-26-2005, 06:15 PM

then dont

#4 08-26-2005, 06:19 PM

No you should not have bet at the flop.

Steve · #5 08-26-2005, 06:24 PM

so just check and fold the flop? Villian will probably bet 60.

#6 08-26-2005, 06:36 PM

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so just check and fold the flop? Villian will probably bet 60.

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Yes, unless he offers better pot/implied odds.

lastchance · #7 08-26-2005, 06:48 PM

This is terrible advice, when you've got 10+ outs to a very good hand.

You need to find a way to either semi-bluff or see a river.

Betting and 3-betting could work here, but I think checking is the better line, going over the top if there's enough in the pot to take down, or calling and betting the turn to freeze people up, or another different line.

#8 08-26-2005, 06:53 PM

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This is terrible advice, when you've got 10+ outs to a very good hand.

You need to find a way to either semi-bluff or see a river.

Betting and 3-betting could work here, but I think checking is the better line, going over the top if there's enough in the pot to take down, or calling and betting the turn to freeze people up, or another different line.

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Great line if you are playing with good players. Terrible line on a PP $33 unless you are interested in gambling the whole tourney on an early coin flip.

45suited · #9 08-26-2005, 06:55 PM

I could easily check / fold this flop early in a SNG. If you're playing a low level guy, you probably have very little FE if he has a K.

For this reason, I very much do not like the C/R all-in here. Keep the pot small, call a small bet, don't go crazy with this hand on the flop.

#10 08-26-2005, 07:00 PM

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I could easily check / fold this flop early in a SNG. If you're playing a low level guy, you probably have very little FE if he has a K.

For this reason, I very much do not like the C/R all-in here. Keep the pot small, call a small bet, don't go crazy with this hand on the flop.

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My thoughts exactly.