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Old 07-29-2005, 03:11 PM
MrWookie47 MrWookie47 is offline
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...meant that this guy LOVES to get tricky and CR the end. Then I saw...

...and was thinking "CHECKRAISE! CHECKRAISE!"

I think you should have trusted your reads, and just checked the river for the same reasons why you didn't raise the turn.


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This is a great point.

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Edit: But I would have played this exactly like you. It looks like I have some things to think about.
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:12 PM
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I was thinking as I read this that..

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His stats are 50/8 with 0.00,0.25,3.00 af factors street by street

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...meant that this guy LOVES to get tricky and CR the end.


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Ya!
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Then I saw...

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River: (8.50 BB) 6 (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks

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...and was thinking "CHECKRAISE! CHECKRAISE!"


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Me too. But I was sorta thinking that he likes to c/r and try and win the pot. So I value bet, even though I "knew" he was going to c/r.

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I think you should have trusted your reads, and just checked the river for the same reasons why you didn't raise the turn.

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Yeah, but I was thinking that I had a value bet at the end. The river is a lot different than the turn in that I don't have to pay 3 bets and there is not another card coming (obvious points, but important nontheless).

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Other than that, I think you played this hand beautifully. I would have entered this pot, too. Not loose at all.

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It's not hard to play beautiful hands when you really rock at poker. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:12 PM
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This might be a little loose of a limp

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My first thought is you are way too tight. I would raise this preflop and limp with tons of trash given your reads.

-DeathDonkey

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Hm yeah. My stats are a little funky for this game: 22/17. Prolly more than a little funky. But I've got a Joe Tall report on the way. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:14 PM
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It's not hard to play beautiful hands when you really rock at poker.

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Heh, I wouldn't know... [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:15 PM
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preflop is standard.

in truth, i probably would have either raised the turn or checked behind on the river- either we have him beat on the turn and it's worth a reraise or we don't (straight, 2pr)

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I think that we can still be ahead >50% and not want to raise the turn.

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and this is just a doofus check.

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This guy is a doofus. But I thought that I had some value in betting the river.

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i guess it's pretty tough to put him on a hand based on stats, but are his stats indicative of his bluffing nature? why would he lead into you on a J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

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He could be semi-bluffing with a 9 or K or "value" betting a J. Or a total bluff. I have no respect for my 3/6 sh opponents.
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:15 PM
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It's not hard to play beautiful hands when youre the godfather of table selection


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FYP
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:23 PM
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...meant that this guy LOVES to get tricky and CR the end. Then I saw...

...and was thinking "CHECKRAISE! CHECKRAISE!"

I think you should have trusted your reads, and just checked the river for the same reasons why you didn't raise the turn.


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This is a great point.

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I dunno, I don't care much that he likes to get tricky if:
A) There's a pretty good chance I have the best hand and I'm not folding.
B) I'm getting overlay from UTG when he's stuck in the middle on the river, where as he has to call 2 cold if hero raises the turn.

I'd play it the same.
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:26 PM
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I have no respect for my 3/6 sh opponents.

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hahah, and i'm scared of my .5/1 opponents [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] misa gots lotsa to learn for 6-max [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: Hm.

Bump for the evening crowd.

Also, what do you guys think about my thoughts re: river value bet.
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Old 07-29-2005, 07:13 PM
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pf: limp is awesome

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I just called the turn donkbet because a) I didn't want to get 3-bet when I had outs and b) I sorta wanted him to keep bluffing if he was doing so and c) I didn't want to get 3-bet if he had the best hand.


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a) and c) seem to go together since what you said in a) leads to you thinking you are most likely behind.

that being said i think you might have out thought yourself into being a bit weak on the turn and overlooked a really good opportunity to isolate the CO. yes utg folds a lot on the river, but if he hits a bingo card on the river hes not going to fold.
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