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Old 05-12-2005, 01:17 PM
banditdad banditdad is offline
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Default How Badly Did I Play This?

I know that calling the raise was probably a mistake but the raiser was raising any hand he played. My big question is about slow playing the 2 pair. How big a mistake is that?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:20 PM
RunDownHouse RunDownHouse is offline
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play This?

I guess he might have a flush or a 5 if he's really raising every single hand he gets. Any more of a solid read than that?

FWIW, I like the pf call. I definitely defend this against a steal, and I think even with UTG in there you won't be in too much trouble postflop.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:22 PM
J.R. J.R. is offline
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play This?

if he is raising any hand (or just a whole lot of hands) the 87o is an OK call. go to war on the flop, he will probably be willing to do so with lots of worse hands.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:22 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play This?

Put more money in on the flop. Bet-3bet or Check-raise depending on your opponent's aggression/hand range. This is not a good flop to slowplay.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:23 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play This?

Blind defense isn't too bad. But then you should raise the flop and lead the turn.

If he raises the turn, call down.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play This?

Let me clarify. I meant he is raising or folding preflop. A lot of times with nothing.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play This?

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Let me clarify. I meant he is raising or folding preflop. A lot of times with nothing.

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I am still confused, but if he has any semblance of hand selection, then I would fold pre flop in a 3-way pot.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play This?

He has no hand selection pre flop. Raises preflop anything with a face card.

I see my big mistake was trying to slow play the flop and post flop, basically giving him a chance to catch up.
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Old 05-12-2005, 02:37 PM
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This is a great spot to CR the flop.
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Old 05-12-2005, 02:41 PM
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I see my big mistake was trying to slow play the flop and post flop, basically missing tons of value

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don't be results oriented, he sucks out (assumption from the tone of your post) regardless of the flop play
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