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Old 03-08-2005, 08:35 PM
Philuva Philuva is offline
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Default gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

I know a lot of posters play this game so I thought people should know.

He bet out on the river $150 into a $390 pot. I had the nut flush which I made on the river. He had the nut straight that he made on the turn. He had about $450 left. I raised his remaining $450 and he disconnected so he did not have to call his remaining $450.

I reported this to Party Poker but I thought others should know as well if you see him at your table.

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Phil
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Old 03-08-2005, 08:38 PM
Richie Rich Richie Rich is offline
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Default Re: gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

I've never seen or heard of anything like this before. Especially at Party Poker. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 03-08-2005, 08:55 PM
kemystery kemystery is offline
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Default Re: gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

I have never seen or heard of that before either, especially not in the 30 game or sngs.
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Old 03-08-2005, 08:55 PM
Voltron87 Voltron87 is offline
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Default Re: gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

That's not cheating... am I missing something?
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:10 PM
JupiterUWG JupiterUWG is offline
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Default Re: gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

it is if he did it on purpose...it is quite illegal to do so, i had an incident when someone did it to me on stars and i reported it as well and stars said it was in fact illegal
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:10 PM
B Mando B Mando is offline
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Default Re: gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

I dont think its good to make assumptions like this based on one hand were he did this. I will admit it does seem very suspect, but about a week ago my usually very reliable internet skipped or something and I was disconnected during a hand.
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

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Old 03-08-2005, 09:23 PM
Philuva Philuva is offline
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Default Re: gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

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I know what disconnect abuse is. My point is the villain did not gain an advantage from disconnecting in this particular case.

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Of course he did. If I was bluffing or betting a 2 pair hand, he was able to win $650 in the pot. If I had the flush, he did not have to lose an additional $415. Do you see why?

Here is the hand history. The only way my turn call is profitable is if I can get his remaining stack, which I felt I could given my history with him. Feel free to comment on the hand.

***** Hand History for Game 1705862441 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (PL) - Tue Mar 08 18:10:05 EST 2005
Table Table 37355 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: luckylooser3 ( $200)
Seat 2: ToSmooth21 ( $569.75)
Seat 3: LakersFan32 ( $1185)
Seat 4: gdogtlaw21 ( $752)
Seat 5: KeVMaNiaCV ( $256)
Seat 6: Angel2OO5 ( $504.25)
Seat 7: happy30 ( $2811.75)
Seat 8: dcso500 ( $812.25)
Seat 9: TTBet ( $914)
Seat 10: philuva ( $986)
gdogtlaw21 posts small blind (5)
KeVMaNiaCV posts big blind (10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to philuva [ Ah, 2h ]
Angel2OO5 folds.
happy30 folds.
dcso500 folds.
TTBet folds.
philuva calls (10)
ToSmooth21 folds.
LakersFan32 calls (10)
gdogtlaw21 calls (5)
KeVMaNiaCV checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5h, 8c, Ad ]
gdogtlaw21 checks.
KeVMaNiaCV checks.
philuva checks.
LakersFan32 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7h ]
gdogtlaw21 bets (20)
KeVMaNiaCV folds.
philuva raises (60) to 60
LakersFan32 folds.
gdogtlaw21 raises (155) to 175
philuva calls (115)
** Dealing River ** : [ Kh ]
gdogtlaw21 bets (150)
philuva raises (801) to 801
philuva is all-In.
gdogtlaw21 could not respond in time.(disconnected)
gdogtlaw21 Disconnect Protection enabled.
Creating Main Pot with $687 with gdogtlaw21
Creating Side Pot 1 with $651 with philuva
** Summary **
Main Pot: $687 | Side Pot 1: $651 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 5h 8c Ad 7h Kh ]
luckylooser3 balance $200, sits out
ToSmooth21 balance $1000, didn't bet (folded)
LakersFan32 balance $1175, lost $10 (folded)
gdogtlaw21 balance $417, lost $335 [ 6c 9d ] [ a straight, five to nine -- 9d,8c,7h,6c,5h ]
KeVMaNiaCV balance $401, lost $10 (folded)
Angel2OO5 balance $504.25, didn't bet (folded)
happy30 balance $2811.75, didn't bet (folded)
dcso500 balance $812.25, didn't bet (folded)
TTBet balance $914, didn't bet (folded)
philuva balance $1338, bet $986, collected $1338, net +$352 [ Ah 2h ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ah,Kh,7h,5h,2h ]
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:23 PM
Wheezl Wheezl is offline
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Default Re: gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

He got to see if his straight was good without having to put any more $ into the pot. Why do you feel that this is not an advantage?
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: gdogtlaw21 is a cheater in the $1K PL Party games

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I know what disconnect abuse is. My point is the villain did not gain an advantage from disconnecting in this particular case.

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I'm not really sure how you can say this. He had a straight, a scare card came on the river, and he got his hand to showdown live without calling Philuva's river bet. That sure as hell counts as "gaining an advantage".

I'm not sure you do know what disconnect abuse is, because this is about as clear-cut a case of it as you'll ever see.
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