blind battle against an unknown LAG

[jt1]

This was my third hand at the table. It was 4 handed and the two guys to my left had very LAGgy #'s after about 50 hands.

I shouldn't have sat down. Going ahead and playing oop against guys like this may be a very big leak of mine.

Anyways, the last hand I played, I was in the sb and open raised with A2o. I was raised on the flop and I released. (I felt I needed a more specific read to challenge my opponent) And now this hand comes up

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 3.66 BB


I'm making a conscious decision to not play metagame and to stop thinking that people are always taking shots at me. With middle pair, I'm obviously playing back or seeing a SD (probably the latter)

[gehrig]

u can fold vs a bad player

vs a good player calldown unless a q, t or 9 comes

I think I fold this, he could even have 8x and beat you. If you had second pair then I would continue but with an 8 beating you aswell I think this could become costly.

This board is drawless barring some gutshots and an open ended. But that is a very small hand range in comparison to the hands that have you drawing to 2 outs.

True

[gehrig]

youre getting 2.5-1 to call down

if the player will raise a straight draw and a 3 here you don't need nearly 2.5-1 to call down

[jt1]

Say I need 2.5-1 to call down. And villian either has a gutshot with 2 overs, and OESD with 2 overs, a 3, an 8, a Jack.

I don't think I have the odds to call down. If you can prove me wrong, please do. That's why we're all here.

[gehrig]

rough range:

Hand 1: 67.4457 % [ 00.67 00.00 ] { A8s, A3s, KJs, K8s, K3s, QJs-Q8s, Q3s, JTs-J6s, T9s-T7s, 98s, A8o, A3o, KJo, K8o, K3o, QJo-Q8o, JTo-J8o, T9o-T7o, 87o }
Hand 2: 32.5543 % [ 00.33 00.00 ] { 77 }

sometimes villain will have no pair, no draw too. if the board bricks out it's 58-42

a bad lag can have a lot more j's and 8's so youre not doing as good