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Old 12-14-2005, 03:20 AM
RiverTheNuts RiverTheNuts is offline
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Default 2nd Tucson B&M Trip report... retard donkfest... wow

So I had fun after my 21'st power hour on saturday night so I went to Desert Diamond on monday night to see what that one was like.

Apparently monday night is pretty busy because they have high hand jackpots and have a bunch of TVs with the game on and scorecards to win prizes. There were 4 3-6 kill games going, a 6-12, a 10-20, and a O8 3-6 kill game. I didn't feel like being pathetic and dropping alot of cash if the variance monster hit, so I just sat at a 3-6 game. The first table I sat at was the tightest and most aggressive of the night.

I would find myself value raising 2 pair only to get shown a set or a flush; I dropped almost a whole rack before I noticed and adjusted accordingly (PS - People asked the dealer to see my cards like 5 times during the night... it sort of pissed me off because they were heads up and completely legit). Anyway, last hand before my table broke up to join other ones, I raise TT after a limper in MP, I get 3 bet from button, call to me and I accidentally cap it (only my 2nd time in a poker room, I was still a little nervous and dont count out chips right all the time).

Flop is T82 2 spades. I lead, get raised, 2 calls, i 3 bet, call, call, call.
Turn 9 spades. Sweet, worst card in the deck... I lead, expecting to get raised, and am planning to check/call 1 bet on the river. Raise, call, I call. River, 8 completing my boat, what a great sequence. I lead, get raised, fold, I 3 bet and we cap it, he flips 99, and I was actually ahead the entire hand for a monster pot. I end table up about 25 bucks.

I then get moved to the 1 seat at another table, with 2 friendly predictables to my left, a maniac asian woman in the 10 seat, and a couple average tight passives in the middle. Maniac asian woman is raising almost every pot, and cursing the dealer and screaming in vietnamese or something whenever she doesnt win. She probably dropped about 6 racks while I was at that table. I take some small pots with overpairs and TPTK, people respect my bets for the most part, and then, the perfect situation happens. I get leg up on the SB, and flop 2 pair, so we kill it with me on the button, I hit a ridiculous string of cards and end up keeping the kill button until Im UTG+1, scooping about 4 straight 6-12 pots. Shortly after me busting half the table, our table breaks up, 3 of us want to play more for 2 seats... so we draw cards, and I pick a deuce, oops.

I decide Ill wait, so I color up and realize Im up about 3 racks from where I started. I walk over to the other 3-6 going, and realize its filled with complete effing morons. The hand before I sit in:

Kill pot, it gets capped 5 ways preflop. Flop is Q94, rainbow, capped 4 ways. Turn is a J diamond, putting 2 out there, capped 3 ways. River is 8 diamond, making a 3 flush and straight draw out there. Capped 3 ways; the guy who could have played the body double for Lee Nickle in Tilt shows J8 for crappy 2 pair, young kid maniac shows AA, and loose passive moron shows QTo, for a 1 card straight, and scoops a 400+ dollar pot. Most insane poker thing ive ever seen.

I sit in AA's seat cause he busted, and over the next 2 hours hit the most ridiculous string of frozen cards, drawouts, monsters, and ridiculous retard gambooling Ive ever been a part of.

I got check 3 bet by 66 on a 478 flop when I hold A8s, and he proceeds to go runner runner quads (I folded to the 3 bet on the flop, it was early) Also, this guy looked like Michael Bolton from Office Space. He and the other guy look so much like their TV counterparts, that I decide Ill take a picture with my phone and post em up here for people. I almost pulled an office space line at the guy and a tilt line at the other guy to see if they or anyone else at the table noticed, but pussed out.

Lee Nickle check raises with no pair no draw into a field of 5 frequently, and 3 bets into a bet, call, raise, call on the river on a 9955K board with J6o.

Kill pot, this is before I see Lee Nickle pull off the amazing J6o 3 bet, or notice that he is pounding budweisers (he is across the table from me, Im like 3 seat, he is 7 seat. I raise K9s in LP with the kill in the blinds, like 6 callers, flop is K83, sweet. I bet, get called in 3 spots. Turn 5, bet, called by kid who scooped the monster earlier and Lee Nickle. River, 6, putting a 3 flush out, I check, hoping to induce a hopeless bluff from one of the two, kid makes a totally transparent bluff bet, Lee Nickle raises... [censored]!!!... I fold for 2 bets in about a 10 bet pot, hoping the kid would at least call so I could see wtf the morons had, he folds, and I dont ask to see either hand, which in hindsight I probably could have done seeing as everyone else at the table was asking and this was more legit than those times.

To make a long story short I turn my 450 dollars into 150 in about 2 hours at this table, and am completely disgusted. Tilted, I leave and go wander, eventually finding the blackjack tables. I sit at the table with the hot dealer, and then realize its the 25 dollar minimum table... ([censored], they SOOO did that on purpose).

I bust my 150 in about 4 hands, and go back to the slot area, pissed at the world. I run into a nice old guy I had on my right at one of the 3/6 tables, and he starts talking to me about his life and how he used to deal cards and his foolproof slots strategy. I just smile and nod, the guy actually believes the crap he is saying; but then again he was being friendly, which was a huge improvement over the players I had played with on my 21st. I continue to talk to him, and put 20 bucks into a quarter machine and dont hit a single payout playing 75 cents at a time. I realize its like 3 AM, and that theres no point in going home now to get 2 hours of sleep, so I finish up listening to him talking about slots, and take the last 80 bucks in my pocket and go sit at the blackjack table. Using my foolproof, totally +EV martingale betting strategy I go 5 bucks at a time and double bet til I win or bust. I get all the way down to my last 40 bucks being on the felt, before going on a sick heater, and winding up with 400 dollars, 5 bucks at a time in about 2 hours.

I go to the cage, cash out my 400 bucks, feeling better that I still have money, and worse that Im a complete gambolholic, and leave.


I ended the night learning 2 things: Live blackjack is really fun, which is a bad thing for my financial state, and the 3/6 game at the Desert Diamond is beatable for about 10 BB/100 if you dont go on tilt putting up with the sick variance of having 7 to a flop every time.


PS - If anyone knows how to get those phone pictures of Lee Nickle and Michael Bolton onto the internet, let me know, I have T-mobile, a motorola, and no cord to connect it to my computer.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:35 AM
hfrog355 hfrog355 is offline
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Default Re: 2nd Tucson B&M Trip report... retard donkfest... wow

Can someone explain what "kill" is used for?

i.e. Kill pot, kill games that sort of thing
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:53 AM
RiverTheNuts RiverTheNuts is offline
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Default Re: 2nd Tucson B&M Trip report... retard donkfest... wow

It just adds action and makes for big, exciting pots. If you win 2 pots in a row over X dollars (x being some number the casino sets, basically anything over a small pot) You get a kill button in front of you, and you post a big bet (6 bucks in the 3/6). Then, preflop, the 1/3 blinds post, and its 6 dollars to play the hand all the way to the blinds, and after everyone is called up, you get the option to raise before the flop. Im not sure how it works if say you are the killer on the button and someone raises to 12 before it gets to you, Im pretty sure you still act last, and can decide to call or not.

In any case, postflop it just plays like a normal 6/12 pot, and you keep the kill blind in front of you until you lose, in which case the "leg up" button goes to the pot winner, and turns into a kill button if he also wins the next pot, rinse, repeat. I may be leaving something out because Ive only been to a poker room twice.

From what Ive gathered intuitively, it sucks for you because you have to post 6 bucks, but if you have it near the button it isnt so bad at all.

Im not sure how an O8 kill works, I assume it gets handed out when someone scoops both ends of a pot.


PS - I forgot to add in my first post; aces went 0-3, and KK and JJ lost the only time I got them as well
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:03 AM
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Im not sure how an O8 kill works, I assume it gets handed out when someone scoops both ends of a pot.

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correct, assuming it meets the same (small) $ qualifier.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: 2nd Tucson B&M Trip report... retard donkfest... wow

If you want to get pics off your Moto phone, you need to buy a cable and the software... what phone do you have? There's always somebody on eBay who has that stuff for sale.

If yours is a v300 or takes the same cable, I dumped my crappy Motorola phone (redundant), but I still should have the data cable and softs.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: 2nd Tucson B&M Trip report... retard donkfest... wow

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Im not sure how an O8 kill works, I assume it gets handed out when someone scoops both ends of a pot.

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correct, assuming it meets the same (small) $ qualifier.

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Yep. The qualifier is the same for Hold'em and Omaha and at the Diamond is that the pot must be 5 BBs (I think). It's 15 SBs at Casino del Sol.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:03 PM
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PS - If anyone knows how to get those phone pictures of Lee Nickle and Michael Bolton onto the internet, let me know, I have T-mobile, a motorola, and no cord to connect it to my computer.

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You should be able to send them as emails to yourself. Try that.

Was the Asian maniac woman named Chow (dunno about spelling, but it sounds like that)? She's pretty well known around there for her ability to put small nations on tilt in less than an orbit.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:59 PM
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My friend has a t-mobile and he would take pictures and they would be saved on the internet. www.t-mobilepictures.com or something like that.
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Old 12-16-2005, 03:51 AM
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Seems right, but I think you have to pay extra for t-zones for that, because my phone won't let me send pictures at all. I don't pay for t-zones because I'd rather USB dump pictures to my computer.
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Old 12-16-2005, 04:06 AM
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Was the Asian maniac woman named Chow (dunno about spelling, but it sounds like that)? She's pretty well known around there for her ability to put small nations on tilt in less than an orbit.

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As I was reading this, I thought, "He must be talking about Chow." She is really strange. First time I sat next to her she would pet me whenever I was in a pot and she wasn't, like she was giving me god luck. Whack job.
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