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Old 10-24-2005, 01:58 PM
Finite_Risk Finite_Risk is offline
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Default Re: Deep $100 max hand

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all-in. he NEVER checks the nuts on the river here

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Ditto - how could he possibly check with J8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] here. Everyone has checked the whole time...the odds of it checking thru here would be high also.

The only question for me is whether min-raise or push is higher EV
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:02 PM
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How the hell has this caused so much debate?

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I like debating and discussing poker.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:38 PM
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all-in. he NEVER checks the nuts on the river here

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Ditto - how could he possibly check with J8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] here. Everyone has checked the whole time...the odds of it checking thru here would be high also.

The only question for me is whether min-raise or push is higher EV

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This is my thinking. If the guy has the gusto to raise J8s UTG and check it all the way through his runner-runner straight flush against my nut flush, and then has the presence of mind to check raise me gigantic, he can have my stack.

I pushed. He thought for a minute, typed in "haha" into the chat (I was SURE he had the straight flush), and called with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (!!). Afterwards, he claimed that he was playing too many tables, and didn't know there was a flush on the board. He also said he was down $1500 in two days. I believe him on both counts.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Deep $100 max hand

You should post harder hands. But this one was fun because you got such weak/tight advice that I got to laugh a lot.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Deep $100 max hand

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But this one was fun because you got such weak/tight advice that I got to laugh a lot.

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I'm glad I helped to make this a fun thread. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Are there any players against whom you don't push the river?
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:41 PM
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Nope.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:41 PM
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I'll post some harder hands when I get back home. I just wanted to see how many people wanted to raise small vs. push vs. call. I thought about calling for about half a nanosecond.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:45 PM
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As an aside, especially with big stacks, I think overbetting with massive hands is a great idea.

Since most 2+2'ers are relatively tight compared to maniacs on 6-max, overbets make you look a lot crazier than you really are. Raising larger than average with premium hands (AA/KK/QQ) is a great way to foster the same type of thought.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:46 PM
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As an aside, especially with big stacks, I think overbetting with massive hands is a great idea.

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I don't see the overbet referred to as "The Wayfare" anymore, but I still remember it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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