A shocking discovery..... shocking to me at least

[tansoku]

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This may be a little premature, but I have been doing some pokerstove research and it appears at least at this point that:

Heads up against a preflop raiser, we should essentially never fold a pair prior to the river for one bet assuming he will autobet the flop and the turn

Am I crazy?


Thanks,
Cartman

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Essentially this is an all-in decision, with the 'all-in' amount = pflop + flop + turn bet.
So if a pair against his range is a >50% favorite, then you should be correct, especially if the blinds have folded.
It also implies you need to call the river as well I think.

The problem is that if you are making this decision on the flop or pflop, you can't get to the turn and use immediate pot odds to justify the decision. The board decides your equity at that point, but you made the decision before you saw the cards.

Unless I'm just totally missing it...

[PTjvs]

Against guys who will continue to autobet w/ hands we beat, I think at least some of the time you want to rope a dope & keep check/calling, to extract max value from them. Am I wrong?