Huge downswing...I don't know what's wrong

GoCubsGo · #1 09-05-2005, 12:22 AM

Over my last 1000 hands or so, I am losing big. More than I've ever lost before. I'm down about 6 buyins. This is all over the last 2 or 3 days. I'm getting terrible cards. Everytime I get KK QQ or JJ, an overcard flops. When I hit a set, everyone folds. There was a raised pot today with 4 limpers, I hit my set, there was an ace on board, I lead for 2/3 pot and every one folded. Whenever I make the nuts, nobody has anything, but whenever I make a very good hand, somebody has the nuts.

Of course, I understand this. That's poker. What I'm wondering is, am I playing like [censored] and adding to it? Here's a few hands I've been wondering about from the last few days. I know there's a lot, so if you can just pick out 1 or 2 that jump out at you, that's fine.

Villain in this hand is LAG. 70/20/1.93. He's been calling big raises from me with nothing, and either folding to my bet or betting and pushing me off my hand.
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Hero ($59.80)
UTG+1 ($144.80)
MP1 ($58.35)
MP2 ($25)
MP3 ($6.25)
CO ($8.70)
Button ($30.50)
SB ($48.50)
BB ($44.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $2, UTG+1 raises to $5, 7 folds, Hero raises to $12, UTG+1 calls $7.

Flop: ($24.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: ($24.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $13, UTG+1 calls $13.

River: ($50.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $34.8 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $34.80.

Final Pot: $120.35

This one I'm pretty sure I really donked it up. Is there any excuse for this, or am I right for feeling terrible about this hand? Also, I won't bet calling preflop with 43s for a long time after this. And don't chase flushes or straights with a paired board anymore, please.

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Hero ($51.25)
Button ($41.80)
SB ($21.95)
BB ($19.60)
UTG ($55.05)
UTG+1 ($55.30)
MP1 ($116.40)
MP2 ($29.70)
MP3 ($44.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.5, UTG folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, Button folds, SB calls $0.50.

Turn: ($6) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $5, SB folds, BB raises to $10, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $17, Hero raises to $50.25, BB calls $8.60 (All-In), MP3 calls $26.75 (All-In).

River: ($118.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $118.60

Here's one I'm not sure I could have avoided. Villain was loose (40% vpip), so his holding isn't out of the question, but he could also be overplaying trips with a good kicker. Is this one my fault?

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Hero ($53.15)
UTG ($45.55)
UTG+1 ($23.70)
MP1 ($18.25)
MP2 ($50.80)
MP3 ($55.90)
CO ($124.05)
Button ($17.15)
SB ($106.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, MP1 (poster) checks, 2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $1.5, MP1 folds, CO calls $1.50, Button folds.

Turn: ($5.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4, CO calls $4.

River: ($13.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $10, CO raises to $30, Hero calls $20.

Final Pot: $73.25

I'd say there's nothing I can do about this one, but I've lost my confidence and need somebody to reassure me this was a good fold:

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MP2 ($27.45)
MP3 ($49.70)
CO ($9.65)
Button ($57.90)
SB ($24.50)
Hero ($49.50)
UTG ($49)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($48.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 4 folds, Button calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, UTG+1 raises to $6, Button calls $5.50, Hero folds.

Anyone getting away from this one? Definitely looked like AA but I couldn't lay it down.

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MP2 ($70.55)
CO ($50.70)
Button ($55)
Hero ($49.50)
BB ($22.15)
UTG ($16.55)
UTG+1 ($124.25)
MP1 ($46.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button raises to $2.5, Hero calls $2.25, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $5, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $4.50, Button calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($21) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $9, UTG+1 raises to $119.25, MP2 folds, Button folds, Hero calls $35.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($184.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($184.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $184.75

Am I too aggressive here? Villain said he folded JJ. Should I have slowplayed?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($50.60)
MP1 ($42.25)
MP2 ($49.25)
MP3 ($57.45)
CO ($32.35)
Hero ($44.25)
SB ($40.40)
BB ($68.50)
UTG ($49.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.5, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, UTG folds, MP2 calls $2.50.

Flop: ($10.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $7, MP2 calls $7.

Turn: ($24.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $15, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: $39.25

Here's me trying my best to extract whatever I can and still getting nothing.

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UTG ($58.40)
UTG+1 ($88.60)
MP1 ($27.15)
MP2 ($34.80)
MP3 ($24.55)
Hero ($49.25)
Button ($14.75)
SB ($51.55)
BB ($43.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
5 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($4.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB folds.

Final Pot: $7.25

These $3 wins are fine, but it really gets old when I win 5 hands and get up $15, only to blow $30 with the 3rd nuts and be down after 70 hands at the table. It's as if they are calling with [censored] every single time trying to spike an unexpected hand, and everytime they don't I barely win, but when they do I pay them off more than I won all the times they missed. Here's an example. Villain was actually playing really tight until this hand:

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BB ($50.60)
UTG ($42.25)
UTG+1 ($37.75)
MP1 ($19.50)
MP2 ($32.35)
Hero ($56.35)
CO ($40.15)
Button ($67.75)
SB ($49.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, 4 folds, MP1 calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $1.5, Hero raises to $5.5, MP1 calls $4.

Turn: ($18.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($18.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $3, Hero calls $3.

Final Pot: $24.75

Results in white below: 
MP1 has Th Jh (three of a kind, jacks).
Hero has Ah Qs (two pair, queens and jacks).
Outcome: MP1 wins $24.75. 

I've never went through such a large downswing before. I'd like to think I'm not tilting because I've always bounced right back before, but I'm not sure. I've got a few more hands I'd like to post later. In the mean time, I'm taking a little break from poker.

Bukem_ · #2 09-05-2005, 12:35 AM

Hand one: just bet the flop. Just play abc here.

Hand two: They are trying really hard to tell you something here.

Hand three: I only bet river here If I can release it to a raise. OTherwise check and decide.

Hand four: Set value.

Hand five: Not sure why you played it this way.

Rest: They only gonna give you action when they catch up and have you beat.

BTW its impossible to play even close to your best when you are running really bad.

yvesaint · #3 09-05-2005, 12:47 AM

Hand 1: Re-raise pre-flop should be more. At least $15, probably more. Bet the flop. You should be all-in by the river if you re-raised pre-flop like that.

Hand 2: Against a loose, aggro player, I can't see myself getting away, but with a better read on his post-flop tendencies, I might be able to.

Hand 3: Looks fine, except I usually 1/2 pot the river. Makes it easier for someone with any K to raise (and call the raise, of course).

Hand 4: Reads needed, I usually call and see a flop ...

Hand 5: Do you really want to play a multi-way OOP raised pot with KK? I re-raise at every point the action is on you pre-flop in this hand.

Hand 6: Re-raise more pre-flop. At least $6. Other than that, looks fine.

Hand 7: BET THE FLOP, BET THE FLOP, BET THE FLOP.

Hand 8: Looks OK, probably better with reads (he's tight, I might even just fold that flop).

Also, don't feel bad. Sometimes you get ridiculous heaters that put you back on top. I had one tonight, in fact: 153 hands, ran 65BB/100 (no sample size, I know), and got dealt AA 5 times, KK 4 times, QQ 3 times, and flopped two flushes and three sets. It happens, believe me [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

wtfsvi · #4 09-05-2005, 12:53 AM

Too many hands.

Hand 1: Reraise more preflop, bet the flop.

Hand 2: Fold after the turn check raise and overpush.

Hand 3: Depends on villain (not just his preflop stats). Will he raise flop/turn with a set or kings up? Will he raise this river with trip kings? Knowing the answer to at least one of these questions will help you.

Hand 4: This is a horrible fold. If UTG+1 is your normal idiot who has telegraphed that he can be placed on AA/KK with 90% certainty you should call here with any two. At the very least any two that doesn't contain an ace or a king.

Hand 5: Reraise buttons original raise. Your position sucks, make them pay to play with you. If UTG+1 pushes all-in over your reraise, you can probably lay it down, but it's going to be tough.

Hand 6: Reraise more preflop. If villain will bet a missed draw after you check behind on turn, then check behind on turn and call a river bet. If he's very passive, betting the turn is probably ok. (And fold if you're check raised.)

Hand 7: Checking behind on a drawless flop to mix it up sometimes is ok. I usually just bet the flop though.

Hand 8: What do you mean when you say he's been playing really tight? How often does he min-raise? Have you seen any of his min-raised hands showed down? Reraising pf with AQ is usually not good against a really tight player.