PLO8 dying on partypoker?

[Mendacious]

Where are the best PLO8 games under $200?

The results might surprise you. I sifted through Pokertracker Omaha and got the following statistics:

Site: Hands: Site VPIP: Site WSD: My BB/100:

Party Poker, 54K, 35.56, 55, 12.2,

Paradise, 4.3K, 45.8, 57, 28.3,

PokerStars, 5.7K, 39.1, 56, 15.11,

Prima, 12.6k, 41.1, 58, 6.2,

Ultimatebet, 2.6K, 41.8, 54, 32,

Party since Oct., ?, 33.1, 56, 4.4,

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Site: Average pot size per level: $50, $100, $200,

Party, $26, $43, $83,

Prima, $23, $37, $78,

Paradise, $20, $35, $42,

Pokerstars, $15, $26, $53,

UB, $19, $33, --

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The things which stand out to me:

1) Party is relatively tight, and getting tighter. It also tends to be the most aggressive site.

2) Prima IS loose pre-flop, but the players ARE better post flop.

3) Paradise and UB are full of lower limit fish.

4) $1/$100 and below on Pokerstars is pretty beatable, but it is hard to clear bonus below the $1 level.

5) Party and Prima have the largest pot sizes per table level.

SOMEBODY PLEASE POST POKERROOM STATS!!

From PokerRoom :

5.8K Hands
35.18 VPIP (36.91 when I exclude myself)
56.3 W$SD, I don't know how to get just a went to showdown %
I'm pulling in 10.4 BB/100

Avg pots:
50 - 21.45
100 - 41.23
200 - 75.93

[Mendacious]

Thx. for posting. I did mean W$SD not WSD. Pokerroom does not look particualarly juicy to me relative to other PLO8 available.

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Where are the best PLO8 games under $200?

The results might surprise you. I sifted through Pokertracker Omaha and got the following statistics:

Site: Hands: Site VPIP: Site WSD: My BB/100:

Party Poker, 54K, 35.56, 55, 12.2,

Paradise, 4.3K, 45.8, 57, 28.3,

PokerStars, 5.7K, 39.1, 56, 15.11,

Prima, 12.6k, 41.1, 58, 6.2,

Ultimatebet, 2.6K, 41.8, 54, 32,

Party since Oct., ?, 33.1, 56, 4.4,


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It's more likely that you ran hot over short intervals at some of these other sites (and perhaps also benefitted from temporary anonymity--bad players haven't yet learned to avoid you). Such small sample sizes beg to have confidence intervals drawn around them--I think you'll see the winrates at other sites don't differ from the winrate you show on party in a statistically significant manner.

[gergery]

Agree, 12k hands and less is way too small to make judgments on, for starters

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Where are the best PLO8 games under $200?

The results might surprise you. I sifted through Pokertracker Omaha and got the following statistics:

Party Poker, 54K, 35.56, 55, 12.2,

Paradise, 4.3K, 45.8, 57, 28.3,

PokerStars, 5.7K, 39.1, 56, 15.11,

Prima, 12.6k, 41.1, 58, 6.2,

Ultimatebet, 2.6K, 41.8, 54, 32,

Party since Oct., ?, 33.1, 56, 4.4,


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It's more likely that you ran hot over short intervals at some of these other sites (and perhaps also benefitted from temporary anonymity--bad players haven't yet learned to avoid you). Such small sample sizes beg to have confidence intervals drawn around them--I think you'll see the winrates at other sites don't differ from the winrate you show on party in a statistically significant manner.

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I'd added 95% confidence intervals to these winrates. As you can see, it's very difficult to see any statistically significant differences between winrates from site to site. (Formula: win rate +/- 2*SD/sqrt(sample size), where SD is 62 & sample size is #hands/100)


Site: Hands: Site VPIP: Site WSD: My BB/100:

Party Poker, 54K, 35.56, 55, 12.2, [2.7, 17.5]

Paradise, 4.3K, 45.8, 57, 28.3, [9.4, 47.2]

PokerStars, 5.7K, 39.1, 56, 15.11, [-1.3, 31.5]

Prima, 12.6k, 41.1, 58, 6.2, [-4.8, 17.2]

Ultimatebet, 2.6K, 41.8, 54, 32, [7.7, 56.3]


So, for example, it would be silly to stop playing at Prima just because you've only run at 6.2 BB/100 over your first 13k hands there. Just as it would be silly to switch to UB completely just because you've run at a smoking 32 BB/100 over your first 3k hands there. I know you (Men) understand this, but it's worth tapping out for general interest.