Turn call/River Fold

Jeff W · #1 09-29-2005, 05:09 PM

Villain is a tight maniac. Stats: 16/14/3.8 over 17k hands. His AF drops to 2.2 on the river, so I suspect he is giving up with unimproved hands on the river quite often.

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Preflop: Jeff is MP3 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, Jeff raises, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, Jeff calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Jeff checks, CO bets, Jeff calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Jeff checks, CO bets, Jeff calls.

River: (6.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Jeff checks, CO bets, Jeff folds.

GoodOL · #2 09-29-2005, 06:08 PM

Tight maniac....lol.

I bet the flop to try get information...unless he autoraises (i.e. no information). What about leading the turn and folding to a raise? Does he bluff raise the turn often?

Easy fold on the river based on your read. Even without that read, there aren't many hands you can beat.

mplspoker · #3 09-29-2005, 09:54 PM

check raise turn or don't even bother calling..

Chris Daddy Cool · #4 09-29-2005, 10:19 PM

yeah pretty easy river fold. and i'm not so sure the turn isn't a fold either.

SmileyEH · #5 09-30-2005, 02:44 PM

Is the you reason you folded the fact the river was a king, or that he was a tight maniac that gives up on the river or both?

-SmileyEH

Justin A · #6 09-30-2005, 02:57 PM

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yeah pretty easy river fold. and i'm not so sure the turn isn't a fold either.

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Yeah I'm not a big fan of the turn call either, the queen leaves you with just 3 hands you can beat.

#7 09-30-2005, 03:00 PM

Not a fan of this one.

Preflop: Fold would be fine. Raise is ok depending on the profiles of the players to act behind you.

Flop: Ok. Or bet or check/raise

Turn: How about betting out? Or check/raising?

River: Well, that's what you get for not giving him a chance to fold on the flop and turn, isn't it?

TStoneMBD · #8 10-01-2005, 04:09 AM

checkcall is really all you can do in this hand, but i agree on a turn checkfold and of course the river checkfold. people are telling you to bet/checkraise somewhere but the information you gain is entirely useless against a 3.8 so all youre doing is putting in more bets when you are behind his range of holdings.