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Old 10-03-2005, 11:57 AM
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Nietzsche never said or implied such a thing,


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It was attributed to him as well as Dostoevsky and stated clearly by Sartre. Pick one, I don't care.

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Probably attributed by an agenda-fueled theist like yourself rather than an objective scholar or reader.
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:57 AM
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Of course, there are only billions of counterexamples of humans made in God's image who have no appreciation for any such thing.


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Reading the hearts and minds of billions is beyond my ability.
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:57 AM
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lived more morally than probably 95% of all Christians in history.

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By what standards of morality?
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:58 AM
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Murder is a property violation, so it's never ok to murder people.


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Who's talking law?

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You are when you say murder is okay without a god construct.
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:59 AM
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The more folks like you, NotReady, and Peter666 advocate teaching ID,


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I've never advocated teaching ID in the public schools.
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Of course, there are only billions of counterexamples of humans made in God's image who have no appreciation for any such thing.


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Reading the hearts and minds of billions is beyond my ability.

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You apparently already did when you claimed their appreciations for truth and beauty.
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:59 AM
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stated clearly by Sartre.


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Read my post again and try to pay attention this time.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:01 PM
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stated clearly by Sartre.


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Read my post again and try to pay attention this time.

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Read my post clearly. I never mentioned Sartre and was replying to your reference to Nietzsche.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:02 PM
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Default Herr Little Freddie Nietzche

What'd he say?

Duh.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:08 PM
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What'd he say?

Duh.

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He said God is dead (killed by rationalism, etc.), but did not say that equates to nihilism.

Your own link says the following: Given the "unbelievability" of the "God-hypothesis" Nietzsche himself seemed to favour the creation of a new set of values "faithful to the earth."

This hardly sounds like "If God is dead, all is permitted - Nietzsche" as you wrote. You clearly can't see any basis for ethical/moral behavior unless it is dictated by a supreme being, whereas Nietzsche (and myself and many others) can see such a standard for values beyond those dictated by a God. This clouds all your thinking on the subject of morality and god.

It is ironic how the atheists can see a reason to respect others without believeing that a God tells them so, but Christians feel that with no "law" (Ten Commandments) then its anything goes.
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