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10-03-2005, 02:10 AM
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A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes
How bout this:
Allow the ideas of creationoists in the biology clasroom except make sure that ALL OF IT is discussed. Not just the 5% that throws some doubt onto certain small specifics of evolutionary theory. Have the biology teachers point out all of the generally accepted ideas of creationism and all of the generally accepted criticisms of evolution that they put out to the unthinking. Then have that teacher systematically show how wrong and ill conceived that 95% is. That should go a long way toward convincing the kids that the remaining 5% will soon or later will be adequately explained. 
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10-03-2005, 02:18 AM
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Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes
So basically your plan is to spread atheism as fast as possible? If so, I guess its no different than the religions that try to spread themselves.
Just out of curiosity. Was creating the science, math, philsophy forum and spreading your beliefs to like 50,000 internet pawns your master-plan all along when you guys decided to make the 2+2 forums. If so, that is AWESOME.
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10-03-2005, 02:42 AM
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Agonistes
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So your plan is to spread atheism as fast as possible? Was creating the science, math, philsophy forum and spreading your beliefs to like 50,000 internet pawns your master-plan all along when you guys decided to make the 2+2 forums? [/ QUOTE ] No, the plan was to also have a forum where the minds of young Christian poker players would be slapped, punched, flamed, twisted, and generally made to agonize enough to make them think for themselves and more clearly.
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10-03-2005, 02:56 AM
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Re: Agonistes
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[ QUOTE ] So your plan is to spread atheism as fast as possible? Was creating the science, math, philsophy forum and spreading your beliefs to like 50,000 internet pawns your master-plan all along when you guys decided to make the 2+2 forums? [/ QUOTE ] No, the plan was to also have a forum where the minds of young Christian poker players would be slapped, punched, flamed, twisted, and generally made to agonize enough to make them think for themselves and more clearly. [/ QUOTE ] I said it was awesome, why didnt you quote taht part. I hope this thread gets totally hijacked cuz his post left pretty much nothing to discuss imo.
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10-04-2005, 01:35 AM
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Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes
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So basically your plan is to spread atheism as fast as possible? If so, I guess its no different than the religions that try to spread themselves. Just out of curiosity. Was creating the science, math, philsophy forum and spreading your beliefs to like 50,000 internet pawns your master-plan all along when you guys decided to make the 2+2 forums. If so, that is AWESOME. [/ QUOTE ] You're wrong, atheism isn't a religion. There are fools who call themselves atheists who believe they are certain about things but they're wrong too. Smart atheists simply have an aversion to theology, because it's stupid.
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10-03-2005, 08:08 AM
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Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes
"Have the biology teachers point out all of the generally accepted ideas of creationism and all of the generally accepted criticisms of evolution that they put out to the unthinking."
I realize that I should have also included the generally accepted ideas that the creationists have had in the past but have since abandoned in the face of new discoveries overwhelming counter arguments. To include only their present day arguments, a few of which have apparantly not yet been completely refuted, would not fully show students how ID proponets are being backed futher and further into a corner.
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10-03-2005, 11:56 AM
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Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes
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[ QUOTE ] ID proponets are being backed futher and further into a corner [/ QUOTE ] I think you have this backwards. [/ QUOTE ] The more folks like you, NotReady, and Peter666 advocate teaching ID, the more it is obvious that the pathologically unreasonable and blissfully ignorant are leading the charge.
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10-03-2005, 08:22 PM
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Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes
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I've never advocated teaching ID in the public schools [/ QUOTE ] No need. Just teach them that the bible represents the basic axiomatic framework for legitimate reasoning. Enrich our children's minds with a sound doctrinal framework, and they will no longer seek a posteriori proofs either for or against scriptural truth. Of course if we didn't insist on separating church and state, an inquisition would also be a viable option. I'll admit though that I have some reservations on the latter.
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