AK ok push in level 3? (22s)

[sahala]

NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Level:3 Blinds(25/50)
Table Table 13778 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Prime88 ( $1315 )
Seat 2: alpastuk ( $536 )
Seat 4: BWHACKED ( $1881 )
Seat 7: thinice987 ( $2993 )
Seat 8: Hero ( $640 )
Seat 9: logan1028 ( $635 )
Trny:14835478 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ah Kd ]
alpastuk calls [50].
BWHACKED folds.
thinice987 calls [50].
Hero is all-In [640]

2 limpers. Both like to limp with just about anything (J6, T9, Ax, Kx). Is pushing here with AK too aggressive?

[bluefeet]

Not so bad w/13BB's - nice t175 pot to grab. The other arguement is call, pushing over a possible raise from behind - or taking it to flop, chancing getting doubled-up on a K/A.

[Maulik]

I think this is a MUCH better play in the blinds. You've got position on the other two, so a flat call hoping to stack as mentioned would be better.

[inyaface]

I like the push
I know some people says its prob more plus EV to raise or limp but its not as easy.

[TWINUNO]

I like this push here, If your good at post flop, i can see where you would wanna limp. Its tough to play here because if you dont hit your A, or K here and these guys are playing anything your running out of chances to build your stack. If you do hit your a or k you might not make any money off it anways if these guys are limping everything. I think its best to just get all in now, now you have almost two more blinds for next level.

[KingDan]

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I think this is a MUCH better play in the blinds. You've got position on the other two, so a flat call hoping to stack as mentioned would be better.

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IMO this is terrible advice.

I really like a push here.

[yabastid]

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I think this is a MUCH better play in the blinds. You've got position on the other two, so a flat call hoping to stack as mentioned would be better.

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IMO this is terrible advice.

I really like a push here.

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I agree.

Given our hero's read here I think this is a definite push. Why give 2 morans who love to limp a chance to see a flop here? Besides matching your A or K on the flop what flop are you gonna like seeing? And how often r u gonna get paid off from guys who like to play junk. If an A or K comes and they don't have it they will probably fold to any shown strength. I put thenm to the test now and push.

yabastid

[SammyKid11]

Yeah, I don't mind a push here...it's one of these "this feels like overplaying it," but if you think about it...

You don't want to limp and find yourself in a 5-way pot holding AK. Your odds just really aren't very good there, and even if you do hit, there's a very good chance you go broke.

A normal raise (with two limpers) might be something like 5xBB -- which leaves you with 8xBB left in your stack. Then, say one limper calls and checks to you on a Q or lower flop. It's almost obligatory at that point that you make a continuation bet to try to pick up the pot...and by that point, your only flop bet is all-in.

So if limping puts you in a tenuous position and a normal raise pretty much already commits you to this pot no matter what hits...why not push? Logic seems simple enough.

[nate_king1]

[ QUOTE ]
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Level:3 Blinds(25/50)
Table Table 13778 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Prime88 ( $1315 )
Seat 2: alpastuk ( $536 )
Seat 4: BWHACKED ( $1881 )
Seat 7: thinice987 ( $2993 )
Seat 8: Hero ( $640 )
Seat 9: logan1028 ( $635 )
Trny:14835478 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ah Kd ]
alpastuk calls [50].
BWHACKED folds.
thinice987 calls [50].
Hero is all-In [640]

2 limpers. Both like to limp with just about anything (J6, T9, Ax, Kx). Is pushing here with AK too aggressive?

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Standard....

[ilya]

Ok first of all, limping sucks.

Pushing is fine.

I also like raising to 250 or so and pushing any flop.