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Old 11-21-2005, 12:41 AM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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Default Re: Holdem, Foldem-or Raisem -$650 Event

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First, I hate the preflop raise here. I'm all about stealing blinds, even from up front, but do it with a hand which is less likely to get you into a tricky situation. I'm inclined to play very very snug here.

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I am more of a control my own destiny type late in these things. I'm not sure if it's the way to go, but it seems like most people are content with folding their way into a seat when they really have no business doing it. PGA's stack seems like he is in no way able to sit there and win a package. So, I'd tend to open up quite a bit and steal the blinds. It seems like in these things there is much less of a FU U ARE STEALING MY BLINDs factor because people almost want to view the crazy guy stealing all the blinds as the good guy, because he's the volatile one that will untilately allow them to fold into the money.

In terms of this hand, I really don't see what is so tough here. It seems like a pretty clear fold. You can call and pray for a chop, or hope he has air, but I feel like in these things people generally stay very true to color, especially against someone who raised UTG and then showed interest with an ace on the flop.

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Old 11-21-2005, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Holdem, Foldem-or Raisem -$650 Event

You have to remember that your average player can fire the turn here, but that follow up on the river with pure air is far less common.

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Old 11-21-2005, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Holdem, Foldem-or Raisem -$650 Event

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but I feel like in these things people generally stay very true to color, especially against someone who raised UTG and then showed interest with an ace on the flop

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where exactly did he "show interest"
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Old 11-21-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Holdem, Foldem-or Raisem -$650 Event

he showed interest after an ace flopped woulda been better wording... I was referring to the turn call.
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Old 11-21-2005, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: Holdem, Foldem-or Raisem -$650 Event

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I was referring to the turn call.

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I know, but I guess what I'm saying is that I don't interpret the turn call as "showing interest" generally.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: Holdem, Foldem-or Raisem -$650 Event

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You have to remember that your average player can fire the turn here, but that follow up on the river with pure air is far less common.

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Exactly why I had to use the time bank so long.
Would have been easier call if he pushed.
He was sophisticated and knew this.
See Final Results.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:56 AM
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We were on the tough river decision cause we allow ourselves to play this hand like a trap to win the most chips.

A call and lose leaves me 7K (and at the bottom of the heap)
A fold leaves me 17K and still a lot of work left.
A call and win puts me 4th in chips and virtually lock up a seat. (like Strassa said at this point a few weeks ago “Im pretty sure if i lose im terrible”)

Would have been easier call if he pushed, because we expected a push or a check.
He was sophisticated and knew this and I felt this was a great bet on his part.

I make the call, complete the WAWB play and to my delight he turns over 9 9.

As MLG stated earlier "As for the WAWB, that is great because it allows you to extract the maximum value from medium strength holdings."
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:03 AM
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that guy plays goot. vnc tho. so you got a seat?
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:29 AM
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im tired what does wawb stand for.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:57 AM
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that guy plays goot. vnc tho. so you got a seat?

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I'm in bro thanks.
Was down to 700 chips after a third of the tourney was complete. (got crippled by a shorter stack both all in)
Think I was 101 of 101 or something like that w/ the ave around 5200.
With only a throw away hand left, came all the way back to be 4rth in chips to the point where I folded into the seat for the last hour.

Lesson learned:
Chip and a chair
Never Give up.
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