650 Hand For analysis

[Prime Time]

This was my bust out hand.
The hat was playing too many hands, and leading out on the flop and I wanted to punish him, so I let him see the flop.
My mistake? Or not?
How bad are people playing here?
This is a $650 buy in. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

PokerStars Game #1661216884: Tournament #7513175, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2005/05/08 - 18:40:57 (ET)
Table '7513175 23' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: PGA71 (2900 in chips)
Seat 2: The Hat (3045 in chips)
Seat 3: Pirum (945 in chips)
Seat 4: Ribbens (2590 in chips)
Seat 5: Sporto623 (2315 in chips)
Seat 6: woodhawk (3975 in chips)
Seat 7: zakooza (4130 in chips)
Seat 8: Evelyn (2360 in chips)
Seat 9: KnightIII (2190 in chips)
The Hat: posts small blind 15
Pirum: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PGA71 [Kh Kc]
Ribbens: folds
Sporto623: folds
woodhawk: folds
zakooza: folds
Evelyn: folds
KnightIII: calls 30
PGA71: raises 90 to 120
The Hat: calls 105
Pirum: raises 825 to 945 and is all-in
KnightIII: folds
PGA71: calls 825
The Hat: calls 825
*** FLOP *** [Td 7h 9c]
The Hat: bets 2100 and is all-in
PGA71: calls 1955 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Td 7h 9c] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [Td 7h 9c 3h] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
The Hat: shows [Ts Js] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
PGA71: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings)
The Hat collected 3910 from side pot
Pirum: shows [Ac Tc] (a pair of Tens)
The Hat collected 2865 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6775 Main pot 2865. Side pot 3910. | Rake 0
Board [Td 7h 9c 3h 8d]
Seat 1: PGA71 (button) showed [Kh Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: The Hat (small blind) showed [Ts Js] and won (6775) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 3: Pirum (big blind) showed [Ac Tc] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: Ribbens folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Sporto623 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: woodhawk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: zakooza folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Evelyn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: KnightIII folded before Flop

[bugstud]

I play it the same way, I'm a big believer in trapping for stacks in this event.

[Prime Time]

Does Ny1 think I should have pushed "the hat" out pre-flop by rerasing all in.
I think that would have done it.
By the way, he went on to take a seat.
Congrats to the hat.

pga71

[durron597]

I don't think The Hat's play is *that* terrible. The preflop allin call is the worst play, but maybe he was thinking that this was a good time to give himself a shot to accumulate chips with a hand that plays well multiway. I still don't like the call but it's just bad, not *downright idiotic*.

On the flop, however, he doesn't know that your call means that you have AA/KK (a good thing to assume in a $650 I suppose with the flat call) and he then pushes with his TP + gutshot. And he has 9 outs even if you do have AA/KK.

I give his play a 4/10. I give your play a 10/10. Ni han.

[SossMan]

You kind of have to play these sats for high risk high reward early, IMO. When it gets later, it's just the opposite, but you need to accumulate now. I like the play all the way around. Just bad luck. You were better than 50% to triple up and better then 65% to >double.

[fnord_too]

I can see either smooth calling or pushing pre flop. With kings, I am more inclined to push (since an ace on the flop just hoses everything up whether my opponent has one or not). On the flip side though, the villain with chips left is, I think, less likely to have an ace since the other guy pushed, so letting him stick arround is not so bad, since maybe you can lose the hand but win the side pot, but then again, if an ace hits villain is probably not going to pay you unless he can beat a pair of aces.

But, if you know that the hat is aggresive enough to push a (lowish) top pair weak kicker + gutshot against you on the flop (or any hand that has a reasonable chance of being the best hand at show down against something like AK or a medium pocket pair), then calling seems nice. OTOH if the hat is inclined to call an all in with smaller PP or big aces pre flop, which he may be, then pushing pre flop seems like a good way to go.

All this adds up to the very first sentence: I can see either smooth calling or pushing pre flop.

[Prime Time]

[ QUOTE ]
You kind of have to play these sats for high risk high reward early, IMO. When it gets later, it's just the opposite, but you need to accumulate now. I like the play all the way around. Just bad luck. You were better than 50% to triple up and better then 65% to >double.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was thinking on simular terms.
My plan was to push the flop if The Hat checked it to me.

[Prime Time]

"All this adds up to the very first sentence: I can see either smooth calling or pushing pre flop."

Can I be results oriented and say wished my decision was to push. Almost did, and I probably never would have gotton to post this gem.

[MLG]

Hat plays good but extremely aggresive. Perfect spot to make this play. oh well.

[Prime Time]

Yankeeees
Can't keep up w/ your pics. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]