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Old 10-22-2005, 06:20 PM
Prime Time Prime Time is offline
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Default Am I too weak in this lay-down?

I was chip leader at the time.
The way I look at it there was a r, call, rr and I had not commited a chip yet.

PokerStars Game #2867220949: Tournament #13733761, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/10/22 - 18:14:13 (ET)
Table '13733761 2' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: OldManRivva (2010 in chips)
Seat 2: Finger Rock (1400 in chips)
Seat 3: Devil42 (2160 in chips)
Seat 4: jjfunk (1860 in chips)
Seat 5: skippy 2 (1260 in chips)
Seat 6: PGA71 (3800 in chips)
Seat 8: mistrp2u (1370 in chips)
Seat 9: micker8 (1600 in chips)
skippy 2: posts small blind 10
PGA71: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PGA71 [Ac Kc]
mistrp2u: folds
micker8: calls 20
Finger Rock said, "ty"
OldManRivva: raises 60 to 80
Finger Rock: calls 80
Devil42: folds
jjfunk: raises 260 to 340
skippy 2: folds
OldManRivva said, "be proud , how were u even in that hand!"
PGA71: folds
micker8: folds
micker8 is sitting out
Finger Rock said, "how bout you?"
OldManRivva: calls 260
Finger Rock: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h Jd Kd]
OldManRivva: checks
jjfunk: checks
*** TURN *** [9h Jd Kd] [8s]
OldManRivva: bets 100
micker8 is connected
micker8 has returned
jjfunk: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [9h Jd Kd 8s] [4d]
OldManRivva: checks
jjfunk: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OldManRivva: shows [Ah Qd] (high card Ace)
jjfunk: shows [Qs Qh] (a pair of Queens)
jjfunk collected 1010 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1010 | Rake 0
Board [9h Jd Kd 8s 4d]
Seat 1: OldManRivva showed [Ah Qd] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: Finger Rock folded before Flop
Seat 3: Devil42 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jjfunk (button) showed [Qs Qh] and won (1010) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: skippy 2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: PGA71 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: mistrp2u folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: micker8 folded before Flop
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Am I too weak in this lay-down?

Depends on player reads... with a loose player raising and another reraising I may come over the top. With one or two solid players in the hand I have no problem folding this... I don't care that it's suited.

Sounds like OldManRivva is steaming about something... might be a small factor on this hand.
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:31 PM
pfkaok pfkaok is offline
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Default Re: Am I too weak in this lay-down?

without reads i think this fold is fine... but if you knew one, or both of the raisers to be loose/aggressive, then you could justify a push also.

i would say don't sweat this one too much, and try your best not to be results oriented when you see the hands... but when you do see the hands you can certainly make notes on the raiser, or reraiser if something funny happens so that you can adjust your play in the future against them.
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Am I too weak in this lay-down?

Read dependent, if I am against loose players, I couldn't get my money in there fast enough, but solid players, I'd assume the reraiser has something good there.

I don't see a problem folding it, you had nothing in the pot against a raiser and a reraiser.
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Am I too weak in this lay-down?

Because of the raise, call, reraise... I would lean towards folding also. No chips in yet, so this hand might be better to be safe than sorry.

Hindsight is 20/20.
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: Am I too weak in this lay-down?

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without reads i think this fold is fine... but if you knew one, or both of the raisers to be loose/aggressive, then you could justify a push also.

i would say don't sweat this one too much, and try your best not to be results oriented when you see the hands... but when you do see the hands you can certainly make notes on the raiser, or reraiser if something funny happens so that you can adjust your play in the future against them.

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Results oriented, not me.
As you can see I was behind and made the correct play PF.
I just wanted to see who hates this fold, or what line they would take.
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Old 10-22-2005, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Am I too weak in this lay-down?

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Results oriented, not me.
As you can see I was behind and made the correct play PF.
I just wanted to see who hates this fold, or what line they would take.

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haha. oh. i actually didn't see the results on there.
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