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Old 07-12-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Why a Raymer victory could be good for poker...

A popular winner can only help, but it doesn't matter who wins. ESPN is going to run a 6 month commercial for poker on a scale even greater than last year. Every college kid in the country not already playing will be playing by year's end.
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Old 07-12-2005, 06:59 PM
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The only thing that could dampen the 'Poker Explosion' did not occur when Phil Hellmuth was eliminated! Can you imagine if you went golfing with Tiger Woods and he spent the entire day telling you how much you sucked and that everything you are doing is wrong!?! "Why would you even try chipping the ball in that situation, moron?"

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Old 07-12-2005, 08:04 PM
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I think that a Fossilman victory will be great for PokerStars, but that is about all.

The fact that the average Joe thinks he can sit down and beat the best players there are in poker due to the fact that he might get lucky is a huge attraction to the masses. Anything that pounds the idea that you need a lot of skill to play good poker will turn off the majority of people since most will not want to be bothered to learn the necessary skills.

Raymer’s victory last year is still bringing in players when they see a relatively average, nice guy, can outlast a huge field that happens to have a few arrogant and/or obnoxious pros in it (Matasow & Arieh). That is the average Joe’s dream! As much as I could care less to watch yet another airing of the 2004 WSOP or see yet another magazine have Raymer plastered to the front… I also see more people dip their hand into their wallet and head to a poker game.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:20 PM
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If poker is seen more of a game of skill maybe more people out there would give it a shot? Some people are against gambling, but if this is seen as more than that, then maybe it will increase the player base.

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If it's seen as a game of skill perhaps it will be legalized nationwide.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:22 PM
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Junk, upon junk, piled onto this piece of junk.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:32 PM
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If poker is seen more of a game of skill maybe more people out there would give it a shot? Some people are against gambling, but if this is seen as more than that, then maybe it will increase the player base.

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What Paul Phillips has to say about that...

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While his back-to-back performances here are incredible, many will misinterpret his success and conclude that poker is much more of a skill game than it is. If thousands of people flip a coin 10 times, some of them will hit 10 heads in a row. Is it because they're really that good at flipping heads? There is probably an anti-Raymer out there somewhere, an equally talented player who has taken a bad beat in the first hour of the World Series two years running who continues to languish in obscurity. That's poker, but that's part of why we love it.

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Old 07-12-2005, 08:34 PM
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wouldnt this be bad for poker, i mean dont we want people playing poker because they think it is a game of luck and any two cards can win?
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:11 AM
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wouldnt this be bad for poker, i mean dont we want people playing poker because they think it is a game of luck and any two cards can win?

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In my experiences, the number of people who think that they are world class poker players greatly outnumber those who say "Eh, I suck, but I win sometimes"


Hence the table coach with a 45% VP$P.
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:03 AM
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A Raymer victory is the best possible scenario and it's not even close. If the same guy gets through massive fields two years in a row in the game's most prestigous event, he becomes a hero of the game. If Raymer were to pull this off it would be the greatest accomplishment in poker history. We all know how lucky someone has to be to make it through such a big field, but the public doesn't know that. If Raymer wins again, he will be elevated to almost mythical status and that is good for the game. Also, in order to keep people watching poker on TV, the game needs to have some guys who are always there. If Raymer wins, he's a legend of the game, and that is good for us, good for him, and good for poker.

Go Fossilman!
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:21 AM
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I say let some idiot like Matusow win it....

Then everyone will think its rigged and deposit at party!
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