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Old 08-09-2005, 12:49 AM
axeshigh axeshigh is offline
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Default Folding TPTK in raised pot (55)

Does anyone fold this? I used to always stack people with tptk at the 33s but I always get owned by people who call raises with say, coincidentally T7o and get lucky.

NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee
Blinds(15/30) -
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: x( $900 )
Seat 2: x( $935 )
Seat 3: x( $920 )
Seat 4: V ( $935 )
Seat 5: x( $982 )
Seat 6: x( $850 )
Seat 7: x ( $1645 )
Seat 8: x( $1150 )
Seat 9: Hero ( $1180 )
Seat 10: V2 ( $503 )
Trny:14675910 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ad Qd ]
4 folds.
Hero raises [100].
V2 calls [100].
3 folds.
V calls [70].
1 fold.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 4c, Tc ]
V checks.
Hero bets [200].
V2 folds.
V calls [200].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
V checks.
Hero bets [325].
V is all-In [635]
Hero calls [310].
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:54 AM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
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Default Re: Folding TPTK in raised pot (55)

Looks fine.

Edit: That was a short answer. Sorry. You can't worry about the fact that he may have you beat because by the time he shows strength, the pot is so large and your remaining chips so few that you would have to be very convinced he had you beat to fold.
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Folding TPTK in raised pot (55)

PF: Fine. Yeah, standard raise.

Flop: Board semi-scary, good time to lead. Another standard bet.

Turn: Meh, the pot's getting huge, and your hand is good. Act like it. Push.
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: Folding TPTK in raised pot (55)

Thanks for the comments guys.

Of course there are also hands like this to renew your vows to TPTK... Blarg, I really thought I was screwed again.

NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: Hero ( $985 )
Seat 3: Donk ( $1545 )
Seat 4: x( $900 )
Seat 5: x( $975 )
Seat 6: x( $970 )
Seat 7: x( $325 )
Seat 8: x( $480 )
Seat 9: x( $2865 )
Seat 10: x( $955 )
Trny:14677160 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ad Kc ]
xx calls [15].
Hero raises [75].
Donk calls [75].
6 folds.
xx calls [60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, Ac, 6s ]
1 checks.
Hero bets [150].
Donk calls [150].
1 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
Hero bets [350].
Donk calls [350].
** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
Hero is all-In [410]
Donk calls [410].
Hero shows [ Ad, Kc ] two pairs, aces and sixes.
Donk shows [ As, 2s ] two pairs, aces and sixes.
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: Folding TPTK in raised pot (55)

You've got to push the turn. Betting out t400 is the worst way you could have played the turn. If Donk looks aggroish, you can C/R turn, but otherwise, you generally slide those chips into the middle.
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Folding TPTK in raised pot (55)

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You've got to push the turn. Betting out t400 is the worst way you could have played the turn. If Donk looks aggroish, you can C/R turn, but otherwise, you generally slide those chips into the middle.

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I don't see why I need to push the turn. I'm getting called by stuff that beats me and folding stuff that I beat. I don't think letting him see a very expensive river card is bad here.
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Folding TPTK in raised pot (55)

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You've got to push the turn. Betting out t400 is the worst way you could have played the turn. If Donk looks aggroish, you can C/R turn, but otherwise, you generally slide those chips into the middle.

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I don't see why I need to push the turn. I'm getting called by stuff that beats me and folding stuff that I beat. I don't think letting him see a very expensive river card is bad here.

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I don't mind not pushing the turn, but then you should have bet less. You bet 1/2 of your remaining stack on the turn, so you can't fold the river anyways. So pushing is better than betting 350. But I sometimes bet 200 here on the turn, and make another smallish river bet if the player will only call a push with better hands, but payoff two small turn and river bets with worst hands.
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Folding TPTK in raised pot (55)

I don't mind not pushing the turn in the second one b/c the flop's ace high. Not pushing or checking behind on the turn in the first one is bad though. If you had the flush ace I would check behind 100% of the time...
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