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Old 11-29-2005, 10:42 PM
EnderIII EnderIII is offline
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Default Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 (t11780)
Hero (t95057)
Button (t68552)
SB (t148424)
BB (t148350)
UTG (t24540)
UTG+1 (t44478)
MP1 (t86124)
MP2 (t77596)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t12000</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t6000.

Flop: (t27000) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">

hero?

My thoughts -- torn between wanting to secure the pot now since the board is so draw heavy and wanting to extract more value if he might take a stab at the pot on the turn if a J-A comes. If i bet here, how much should I bet? Half the potish to look like a standard continuation bet, or push all-in to make it look like a semi-bluff? If I check, how should i play the turn if a card that completes a draw comes out?
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

bet whatever your standard continuation bet is..
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

that hand reminds me alot of the hand for the masters thread. Shorter stacks interms of BBs, but yeah the flop is a bet of whatever is standard for you, and just play a turn.
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

whatever you do dont check
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

Yea your standard continuation bet would be the best play. Villain may very well reraise you thinking the flop was unlikely to have hit you.
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:00 AM
EnderIII EnderIII is offline
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Default Re: Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

Thanks for the responses everyone, just wanted to check my line, I bet 12000 and he folded, just wanted to make sure I wasn't leaking too much value all over the place. I guess I was just hoping for a raise, but most of the time in that spot i'm really hoping not to be raised, so its probably just as well.
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:37 AM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

About the steal. Dunno how the table was playing, but would you really expect a 25BB stack to fold to a minraise with all that dead money in there?
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:38 AM
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Default Re: Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

I don't like the miniraise either. BB calls with just about any random hand here. Therefore I think its important to win this hand on the flop. You really have no range for him and board is nasty. I bet the pot and dont get tricky.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

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Yea your standard continuation bet would be the best play. Villain may very well reraise you thinking the flop was unlikely to have hit you.

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Old 11-30-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal gone good…slow play or take it down?

This is a good point and one I tend to struggle with late in tournaments. There seems to be a point in a tournament at which typical preflop raises are reduced from 3x to 2.5x and then very late from 2.5x to 2x. Normal raises at the table were just min-raises and the blinds in general were not defending, so it seemed unnecessary to risk more chips since minraises seemed to have so much folding equity. Should i just buck the trend and continue raising 3x the bb? If so i might be pricing myself in to call a push in some cases that i really don't want to call with 86s, but i do want to make this steal often enough.

So to answer your question, yes, i thought he might fold to a minraise, but this was based largely on the table dynamics and I probably should have taken into account his stack size as being more likely to defend, thanks for pointing that out...quite helpful.
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