The hand where kyro wears a skirt - Page 2

jeffraider · #1 10-28-2005, 02:29 AM

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I am apparently way too pushbottyess on the bubble. And I thought I had toned it down considerably [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Maybe dude UTG's range is probably 99+, AQ+.

kyro · #2 10-28-2005, 02:32 AM

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I am apparently way too pushbottyess on the bubble. And I thought I had toned it down considerably [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Maybe dude UTG's range is probably 99+, AQ+.

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This has GOT to be wrong. I may be a bit too maniacal when getting shortstacked, but you are basically resigning yourself to being blinded out if you are only playing this range UTG>

mlagoo · #3 10-28-2005, 02:30 AM

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I am apparently way too pushbottyess on the bubble. And I thought I had toned it down considerably [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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well you hadnt specified that this was the bubble =/

Four-handed, his range probably loosens up a bit... but I know when I am pushbotting on the bubble, my decisions are based heavily on who is in the BB at the time, and what I think their calling range would be. If I'm pushing with a marginal holding, it's not going to be into the BB that is mostly likely to call me.

OTOH, if its 4-handed, we can probably reasonably both ranges are a bit wider. Probably something like 44+, A9+ for UTG, and 88+, AJ+ for Button. I still think it's a fold. And I still call with QQ+ only on the bubble.

rbear · #4 10-28-2005, 02:26 AM

uh, you lose money if the button beats you... period, guess i don't really understand what you're sayin... 10 10 3 way, gotta expect at least 2 overcards out of the two of them... maybe 3, maybe overpair... not worth the risk to me! how many left ?!?!?!?!?!

kyro · #5 10-28-2005, 02:28 AM

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uh, you lose money if the button beats you... period, guess i don't really understand what you're sayin... 10 10 3 way, gotta expect at least 2 overcards out of the two of them... maybe 3, maybe overpair... not worth the risk to me! how many left ?!?!?!?!?!

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Button wins the hand. I have more chips than UTG so I get paid for 3rd place. This is what I mean.

I edited original post. 4 left.

rbear · #6 10-28-2005, 02:33 AM

Thanks for clarifying that... and now it seems like a 1st or third situation, which would make it read dependant to me... Good thought provoking post!

kyro · #7 10-28-2005, 02:33 AM

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Thanks for clarifying that... and now it seems like a 1st or third situation, which would make it read dependant to me... Good thought provoking post!

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Thought-provoking posts SUCK. It means I actually had to do an ounce of thinking which is the last thing I want to do when playing SNGs.

splashpot · #8 10-28-2005, 02:28 AM

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uh, you lose money if the button beats you... period, guess i don't really understand what you're sayin... 10 10 3 way, gotta expect at least 2 overcards out of the two of them... maybe 3, maybe overpair... not worth the risk to me! how many left ?!?!?!?!?!

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If the button beats Hero and the button beats UTG, UTG comes in 4th, Hero gets 3rd.

jeffraider · #9 10-28-2005, 02:24 AM

Hehe we already talked about what my pushing standards are UTG with 1300 at blinds of 100/200, so I'm folding pretty quickly here knowing UTG is a 2+2er. With the added complication of a call/push behind him I think TT looks no good here and I think I'd need KK/AA to call here, but I might be out to lunch. I think I'd be inclined to muck AK too, honestly. No matter what the result of this hand barring an unlikely split, you're going to be in the money or have 1K more chips than the short stack.

Interesting hand though, I wonder how it would feel like if UTG was a maniac. Probably need QQ+ to call.

jgunnip · #10 10-28-2005, 02:30 AM

I'm folding since I think the times you call and make the money are going to be less than the times you fold and make the money. Obvioulsy, when you win you will have a nice stack, but then on the other hand, when you survive, you'll be getting 3rd a majority of the time.