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Old 12-14-2005, 12:49 PM
HeroInBlack HeroInBlack is offline
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Default Re: Bottom 2 pair facing 2 raises

You're way too short to be choosy. I say go with it. You could be drawing dead, but more likely you have at least 4 outs, and there's a decent chance you have the best hand already.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2 pair facing 2 raises

impossible to be drawing dead at this street, but point taken (nearly drawing dead)
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2 pair facing 2 raises

vs QQ who has a higher set. = drawing dead... or runner runner 4 or runner runner 9 .... almost drawing dead.

EZ call, I would have re-raised to 400 with a plan to go all-in on the turn.

Why not push, because you want action (I would want action)
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2 pair facing 2 raises

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vs QQ who has a higher set. = drawing dead

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wrong. you are discounting the fact that hero can hit quads. this is not drawing dead.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2 pair facing 2 raises

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vs QQ who has a higher set. = drawing dead... or runner runner 4 or runner runner 9 .... almost drawing dead.

EZ call, I would have re-raised to 400 with a plan to go all-in on the turn.

Why not push, because you want action (I would want action)

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wrong. you are discounting the fact that hero can hit quads. this is not drawing dead.

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I'm not sure I know what either of you are talking about...look at how the hand went - a preflop limp with pocket Q's?

What's the point of betting 400? to leave yourself with nothing?

OP: Shove it in.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2 pair facing 2 raises

This is admittedly a tough hand to play on level one when you have plenty of chips. It's an easy all-in here though.
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:03 PM
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vs QQ who has a higher set. = drawing dead... or runner runner 4 or runner runner 9 .... almost drawing dead.

EZ call, I would have re-raised to 400 with a plan to go all-in on the turn.

Why not push, because you want action (I would want action)

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wrong. you are discounting the fact that hero can hit quads. this is not drawing dead.

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I'm not sure I know what either of you are talking about...look at how the hand went - a preflop limp with pocket Q's?

What's the point of betting 400? to leave yourself with nothing?

OP: Shove it in.

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actually, i wasn't commenting on the hand, i was commenting on his remark that OP could be drawing dead and that it was physically impossible to be drawing dead with that flop and his 2 pair.

as far as the hand goes, I call the allin with my shorty stack whether I am way behind or not. 2 pair is just 2 hard to pass up. If i were deep stacked and had to risk elimination, I would not go to war with bottom 2 pair unless I had a darn good read.
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