No More Illini and Seminoles in the post season

[mmbt0ne]

At least, not with their mascots.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2125735

NCAA American Indian mascot ban will begin Feb. 1
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA banned the use of American Indian mascots by sports teams during its postseason tournaments, but will not prohibit them otherwise.

The NCAA's executive committee decided this week the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools, committee chairman Walter Harrison said Friday.

Nicknames or mascots deemed "hostile or abusive" would not be allowed on team uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford's president.

"What each institution decides to do is really its own business" outside NCAA championship events, Harrison said.

"What we are trying to say is that we find these mascots to be unacceptable for NCAA championship competition," he added.

At least 18 schools have mascots the NCAA deem "hostile or abusive," including Florida State's Seminole and Illinois' Illini. The full list of schools was not immediately released.

Not all schools with Indian-related nicknames are on that list. NCAA officials said some schools using the Warrior nickname do not use Indian symbols and would not be affected.

North Carolina-Pembroke, which uses the nickname Braves, will not face sanctions. NCAA president Myles Brand explained said the school's student body has historically admitted a high percentage of American Indians and more than 20 percent of the students are American Indians.

Schools on the list could still appeal.

"I suspect that some of those would like to having a ruling on that," Brand said. "But unless there is a change before Feb. 1, they will have to abide by it."

Major college football teams also would not be subjected to the new rules because there is no NCAA Divsion I-A tournament or playoff.

Vernon Bellecourt, president of the National Coalition on Racism in Sports and Media, was pleased with the postseason ban but had hoped for even stronger action.

"We would have hoped the NCAA would have provided the moral leadership on this issue, but obviously they've chosen to only go halfway," said Bellecourt, a member of the Anishinabe-Ojibwe Nation in Minnesota.

The NCAA two years ago recommended that schools determine for themselves whether the Indian depictions were offensive.

Florida State, for example, has received permission from the Seminole tribe in Florida to use the nickname. That, however, will not suffice.

"Other Seminole tribes are not supportive," said Charlotte Westerhaus, the NCAA vice president for diversity and inclusion.

Among the schools to change nicknames in recent years over such concerns were St. John's (from Redmen to Red Storm) and Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles).

At the University of North Dakota, where the Fighting Sioux nickname has come under fire, officials said they wanted to study the decision before commenting.

"We just don't have enough information to know exactly what it means," said Phil Harmeson, a senior associate to school president Charles Kupchella.

The NCAA plans to ban schools using Indian nicknames from hosting postseason events. Harrison said schools with such mascots that have already been selected as tournament sites would be asked to cover any offensive logos.

Such logos also would be prohibited at postseason games on cheerleader and band uniforms starting in 2008.

Other measures approved this week include stronger penalties for schools that repeatedly fall below the NCAA's new academic cutline. Harrison said schools would receive a warning letter the first year; restrictions on scholarships, recruiting and playing time the second year; and a postseason ban the third year. If a school fails to meet the standard four consecutive years, all teams at that school would be ineligible for postseason play.

"I'd fully expect that we never get to the fourth year," Harrison said. "A school should take stronger action before that. But I think this should send a message that there will be real, serious consequences if you don't."

Schools also would receive a bonus point if a player returns to school to complete his or her degree.

The board also approved a two-year contract extension for Brand. His deal was to run through Dec. 31, 2007 and now includes an indefinite two-year rollover.

NCAA = PC

American Indian mascots are offensive, unless your school admits 20% Native American's like the North Carolina-Pembroke Braves. Starting with tourneys after Feb. 1, no mascots or clothing featuring the offensive depictions will be allowed. Oddly enough, this only applies to post-season play.

tl;dr

[keats]

Also did anyone see that it doesnt apply to football because football doesnt use a tournament format. Haha wouldn't want to disrupt the money maker would you?

[hoopsie44]

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Nicknames or mascots deemed "hostile or abusive" would not be allowed on team uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford's president.


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I'm relieved NYU will still be known as the Violets.

[alta_chuttes]

no, it doesn't apply to football because bowl games aren't run by the NCAA.

[keats]

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no, it doesn't apply to football because bowl games aren't run by the NCAA.

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Major college football teams also would not be subjected to the new rules because there is no NCAA Divsion I-A tournament or playoff.

Straight from the article...

[Colonel Kataffy]

Good. I hope they ban the Spartans and Trojans as well.

[The Armchair]

The Seminole tribe has repeatedly affirmed FSU's use of them as its mascot.

The NCAA knows this.

The NCAA should be ashamed of themselves for mandating that the Seminole tribe be deemed "offended."

[New001]

The whole thing is stupid. At UIUC, there was a newspaper article that was saying the Native American population was tired of people asking them what they thought of the Illini mascot, or other related questions, and that they wanted it gone in part because those questions make them uncomfortable.

If they wouldn't make such a big deal about it, they wouldn't have to answer those questions. If they truly are offended by it, then that's fine, but I would be surprised if that was the case. Hell, how many people would even know what "Illini" was if it weren't a mascot? Political correctness is just stupid.

I don't want my school's mascot to change, it'll probably end up being something worse.

[mmbt0ne]

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The Seminole tribe has repeatedly affirmed FSU's use of them as its mascot.

The NCAA knows this.

The NCAA should be ashamed of themselves for mandating that the Seminole tribe be deemed "offended."

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I'm guessing you didn't read the article.

Florida State, for example, has received permission from the Seminole tribe in Florida to use the nickname. That, however, will not suffice.

"Other Seminole tribes are not supportive," said Charlotte Westerhaus, the NCAA vice president for diversity and inclusion.