T8s deep...online poker has retarded my live game.

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Fantastic 5/5 game at foxwoods, i'm stuck, bobbo is chatting it up with 2 huge fish and is actually genuinely interested in the crap they have to say. I could care less and I'm getting annoyed that the dealer is having an in depth conversation with them rather than dealing me through my cold deck of cards. Uber calling station fish who raises once an hour makes it 25 UTG with 2k behind. I call with T8s, and super crazy retarded nutjob lag ($4k? too much in bills) who has gotten the better of me all night makes it 50, fish calls 25 more, I call 25 more. I think I have about 4k at this point.

Flop comes A84 giving me pair plus flush draw. fish bets 100, I make it 300, Lag minraises to 600, fish calls 300, I..........call 300?

Playing pair plus flush draw is a lot harder with 500+bb stacks than I thought. I would estimate my folding equity in the low single digits, like 1% with both of these guys. Nutjob lag loved to minraise, that was his standard raise on pretty much any bet. I'm curious if there are reasons to wait for the turn before getting it in or not given the stack sizes, neither one of them has a set.


part 2: I got lynched for this by bobbo, chaostricize, and duck, rightfully so I suppose, I just hate the idea of calling off my stack on the turn when I know I'm behind and neither one is folding. I call 300 more on the flop. Turn is a low brick. Fish checks, I check, lag bets 1200, Fish calls 1200, and I fold? Getting about 3.5:1 on a 2:1 shot? Yes I really am that dumb, I lament to bobbo that calling off my stack with a draw on the turn seems like a losing play. He just looks at me and says, getting 3.5:1? I stay quiet as I realize how bad I am. Have at it.