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Old 07-25-2005, 09:19 PM
JerseyTom JerseyTom is offline
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Default I fold the turn...

This one had me thinking. I'm not quite sure what I think of my play here..

Comments welcome on all streets.

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Preflop: JerseyTom is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, JerseyTom completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">JerseyTom bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, JerseyTom calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">JerseyTom bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, JerseyTom folds...
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:46 PM
aK13 aK13 is offline
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Default Re: I fold the turn...

I'd 3bet the flop.


I think the fold is ok assuming a reasonable, thinking opponent (but is this really the case?).
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:56 PM
irishpint irishpint is offline
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Default Re: I fold the turn...

3bet the flop and lead the turn (fold the turn UI if capped on flop, duh)
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: I fold the turn...

AA/KK/QQ/AJ would raise Preflop…so JJ with High kicker is good holdings


So if you are behind your behind to little trips. BB could be betting anything (Ax, Flush). However, the raise on the flop does raise some concern
I’d check/Call turn…check/Call River
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:32 PM
hemstock hemstock is offline
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Default Re: I fold the turn...

Before I read SSH I would make a good laydown.
Now that I have read it. I would at least call this down.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: I fold the turn...

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AA/KK/QQ/AJ would raise Preflop…so JJ with High kicker is good holdings


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Many players will not raise AJ from the big blind. They also wouldn't raise 22, 44, J2, J4 or 42.

That said I like our hand on the flop as well and would likely 3-bet and lead the turn if not capped. If I still got raised on the turn I would feel pretty sure I was behind, but depending upon how many of those other players stuck around and for how long I would probably have to at least see the river.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:55 PM
Two_Slick Two_Slick is offline
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Default Re: I fold the turn...

I smell QJ... either way the pot isn't that big and I'm putting him on at least 2 pair at this point (unless he is super aggressive). It's a fold for me.
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:36 AM
Mooski Mooski is offline
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Default Re: I fold the turn...

I'm more worried why MP3 has called 2 bets on the flop and turn.
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:35 PM
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However, the raise on the flop does raise some concern I’d check/Call turn…check/Call River

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I'm calling it down non raised to the end
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:41 PM
Kumubou Kumubou is offline
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Default Re: I fold the turn...

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I'm more worried why MP3 has called 2 bets on the flop and turn.

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Because MP3 loves calling? If you have a read that he is a solid player and then is suddenly calling two cold on the turn on a drawish board, you may want to take note of that. If they are donks? Uh... they're donks, that is what they do.

I would 3-bet the flop, and then with the turn action I would call the turn raise looking to re-suckout and just call one back on the river UI. If he caps the flop you can probably dump it on the turn.

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