Dont feel good about this one at all.

joesbarngrill · #1 06-06-2005, 02:31 PM

Table is LP
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, UTG raises, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero folds, UTG calls.

River: (15 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Input appreciated. Didnt feel well about this one though.

cnfuzzd · #2 06-06-2005, 02:32 PM

Dont fold. You have the odds.

peace

john nickle

Adam22 · #3 06-06-2005, 02:35 PM

why fold? you're only beat by stupid hands like A5, A4 and raritys like 55 and AA which seems illogical here. i hate calling a million bets on the turn and river too but you've got to think you're ahead most of the time.

GoHoosiers · #4 06-06-2005, 02:35 PM

I think you have to call the turn. It sure looks like someone hit the gutshot straight, but you have 10 outs to a boat/quads. Plus the time that your set hold up...you're getting 15:2 odds to make the turn call.

Rich

bozlax · #5 06-06-2005, 02:37 PM

I was thinking, "I can't imagine what he thinks is wrong with this. He's getting money into the pot with a set. That's what you're supposed to do."

Then I saw the turn.

Bad fold. You're likely up against an ace and a flush/straight draw. Even if everybody at the table has a made hand on the turn you've got 10 outs to a full house or better. You have to take this to showdown.

Oh, and cut off the post at your turn action. Seeing that you made your boat might influence my decision [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

sean c · #6 06-06-2005, 02:38 PM

No reason to show the river and no reason to fold the turn you have a 10 out redraw if someone has a three which is unlikely

Nyack · #7 06-06-2005, 02:45 PM

Turn fold is bad, so many outs and such a big pot.

Anyone like a turn raise? After raising the flop UTG+1 isn't going to have a 3 very often and even when he does Hero has a huge redraw.

joesbarngrill · #8 06-06-2005, 02:47 PM

I just showed the whole hand didnt even think about the fact i hit the river lol just c/p'd it all.

UTG had A3o UTG+1 had AJo

I was multi tabling and didnt think 10 outs was good cause im counting the 3 aces which are less likely to all be in the deck. Your still all right about calling though. Thanks.

daftdg · #9 06-06-2005, 02:49 PM

you are getting 2 to 14 on your call here. I think I could go either way on this one. Assuming one of these guys has two pair (A-4 or A-5 seem possible), and UTG+1 sure looks like he hit his gutshot, our outs are severely discounted.

If he has A-4 we're still drawing to 3 2's and 3 5's and 3 3's for a split (9 outs).

If he has A-5 we're drawing to 3 2's, 3 3's and a 4 (7 outs).

Even if we put him on 5-4 which seems unlikely we're drawing to 9 outs. If you include the remaining 3's for a split pot we have on average about 8 outs. Seems like a peel here, although we may be drawing to split the pot.

I think this would be a good one for the pokerstove if anyone has the time.

Edit: Fixed Hero is getting 7 to 1. Missed the call. Thanks Sean

capone0 · #10 06-06-2005, 02:58 PM

why can't i get a player like you fold at the casino. even at 5/10 and 10/20 it's no fold'em hold'em. they'll call 4 bets on the turn with a gut shot at the casino.