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Old 12-30-2004, 12:52 PM
Bubbagump Bubbagump is offline
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Default Re: $35M Aid to Disaster Relief

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Anybody else bothered by this staggering difference?


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No.

If America doesn't look after it's own who will? And it we can't help our own, how will we be able to help others?

How many offers of help did we get from foreign countries after the hurricanes? And if your answer is that we don't need any help because we are rich, don't bother answering at all. If you have an Rich friend and they suffer suffer some kind of catastrophic event, you don't just not do anything and say to yourself "hey, they are rich they can get through it.". You still go over to them and offer your condolences and ask, "Is there any thing I can do?" We do this even though we know there is nothing we can do because it's human nature to want to help our friends.

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Old 12-30-2004, 12:58 PM
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I hope one of these natural disasters wipes out all you communists so I can pick the charities I give to instead of having you pack of thieves take it from me.
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Old 12-30-2004, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: $35M Aid to Disaster Relief

Why should we help I mean I dont mean to be an ass but have you all been listening to the news are dollar is going down why is that, I dont know maybe beacuse we keep giving our money out to ther countrys then they screw us look at russia and germany for instance, or even France we save them thelp them and they stab us in the back..

I say screw other country's USA all day keep our money here so we keep our dollar.. Thats just my openion [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:07 PM
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Yes and no. Of course I give. I don't give with the expectation of a quid pro quo or direct return. When I give I give to people or things I value. So there is a self interest there, but not a direct one. I am not an altruist, at least as that term is properly defined and understood.(Some would say I am an altruist, but they don't agree with my definition of the term.) I give voluntarily and I don't take money by force from people to fund my giving. The government takes my money by force, and thus only has the moral right to use it for things that are proper government functions. Charity is not an approprite government function.

Why would you assume I don't give to charity BTW?
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:12 PM
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That is great 75% of those stusents will leave for freer countries.
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: $35M Aid to Disaster Relief

You can hire a doctor in most parts of Canada, at least for certain things.

While Canada certainly suffers from too much of the "government owes me and I owe it" mentality, it is possible to go too much the other way.

Just a different case of warts, no better or worse.

As much as I'd like to see the only taxes being for those things that are necessary for all (police, defense, roads, etc. and user fees for everything else), too many people depend on handouts everywhere for that to ever happen: and their vote counts the same as people who feel as I do.
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:35 PM
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that's good to hear it isn't totally illegal.
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Old 12-30-2004, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: $35M Aid to Disaster Relief

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How many offers of help did we get from foreign countries after the hurricanes?

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Excellent point.

I heard the French sent over some wine.

-Zeno
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Old 12-30-2004, 02:24 PM
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My opinion of France just went up. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 12-30-2004, 02:33 PM
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Ya, but he isnt talking about an individual he is talking about the govt of the US...Im puzzled how hard it seems for alot of you to tell the difference between the two.
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