low limit on party/empire - Page 2

harboral · #11 01-03-2004, 04:09 PM

You already have some good advise, but I'll add that I have played a lot of 1-3,2-4 and 3-6 in casino games that are similar to Party/Empire 50/$1 - but you are only going to see about 25 hands per hour. Even if you play the $3/6 very well you will make only $10 per hour. Online at the 50/$1 you can easily play 3 games - which should help you play just top quality cards (group 4, maybe group 5 as the worst) and make $10 to $15 per hour. If you want to spice things up, try playing 2 small games and a $2/4 game. (The $1/2 games are tougher than the $2/4) You need 300-500 big bets for a decent bankroll, but if you play 3 games at one time you can reduce that by 25%.

noddyholder · #12 01-03-2004, 06:45 PM

good advice harboral

Roy Munson · #13 01-04-2004, 10:33 AM

You claim this is your first post yet your profile lists 4 posts?

noddyholder · #14 01-04-2004, 11:29 AM

I answered some posts Roy. What is your point?

CrackerZack · #15 01-04-2004, 04:01 PM

Not to be harsh, but honestly, if the people at .50/1.00 are playing so bad you can't beat them do you really think you'll do better at higher limits? They are playing so bad, you can't beat them. Does that make any sense?

noddyholder · #16 01-04-2004, 04:17 PM

Cracker

Good point. But my qustion was how realistic is party/empire to live games? It seems like a lot of crazy things happen on those sites, including how the flops come and how many times someone who stays with a bad starting 2 cards get something on the river to beat someone who has a better starting hand. My goal is to make a few hundred dollars a month and I'm trying to figure out the best way to do it. I still have a lot of learning to do so that's why I asked the question. Thanks for all the great responses.

MicroBob · #17 01-04-2004, 06:03 PM

I would like to make some money doing this like a lot of you do. It almost sounds like I need to play at the 3/6 tables or higher. I think I'm a tight/agressive player and maybe fewer people stay in for the flop at those tables."

to make some money at this i'll set some rules that you may or may not feel free to follow.
you have to be patient, both at the tables and in your desire to move up levels.
you are not allowed to move up until you can prove you can consistently beat the .5/1 game...then prove you can consistently beat the 1/2 game...etc etc.

wanting to move up because the players at .5/1 aren't good enough is erroneous thinking. wishing you could take all of these players' playing styles with you to 3/6 or higher is appropriate thinking.

thinking in terms of 'it seems like' the worst two cards are always winning at my table will not get you very far.
the guys that play the lousy cards are the guys to hang out with and continue to play with.

some of the .5/1 can be a little tricky post-flop even if their pre-flop starting requirements are awful. others will take their 22 to the river when the board is AAAJJ or AKQJT (har har).

if enough players stick arond with terrible holdings then the odds of someone hitting runner-runner for some ridiculous two-pair go up dramatically. this means you'll take your share of bad beats when you have top-pair and thought you were good....it also means you'll win more when the chasers don't hit.
idiot-chasers like these are what you want.

in short (and it's been said before and i'm just saying it again), if you can't beat the .5/1 party games then how should you be able to beat the games at a higher limit??

noddyholder · #18 01-04-2004, 06:48 PM

microboy

Thanks for the advice/rules.

CrackerZack · #19 01-05-2004, 01:02 AM

people have posted their data from pokertracker before and all hands/flops etc come well within standard deviation. The games are like live very low-limit games, can be very frustrating, and will have tons of suckouts, just like live low limit games. As you move up in levels the games get a bit tighter and a bit more aggressive both live and online. Games tend to be nuttier online though as people don't have to worry about looking someone in the face so they'll try all sorts of crazy bluffs and when they're tilting and raising like crazy, don't have to be embarassed by being visibly disturbed. Its less personable, but from a poker standpoint, they're very similar. Good luck out there.

Zack

noddyholder · #20 01-05-2004, 09:07 AM

Zack

Thanks for the reply. And thanks to everyone else that replied. I am not moving anywhere including up until I master .5/1 at party. I am up overall, but not as much as some of you post and I still have a lot to learn. I will continue to read the posts and study anywhere else I can.