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overlimp from CO or button 1 7.14%
fold from CO or button 2 14.29%
fold from CO, raise from button 0 0%
raise from either CO or button 9 64.29%
overlimp from CO, raise from button 2 14.29%
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Old 12-04-2005, 02:59 AM
TheRonin TheRonin is offline
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Default Tought spot? What do you do?

27+2 satelitte into sundays 200+15 tourney
I dont have a read on anyone as the tourney hasnt been running very long


PokerStars Game #3235857887: Tournament #16015906, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/12/04 - 01:25:27 (ET)
Table '16015906 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: THIS IS YOU (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: moabettah (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: HAILLOW (890 in chips)
Seat 4: RickF64 (1370 in chips)
Seat 5: barr_b2 (1460 in chips)
Seat 6: helliott (2280 in chips)
Seat 7: kaelder (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: swoosh72 (1440 in chips)
Seat 9: highwayman2 (1590 in chips)
barr_b2: posts small blind 10
helliott: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to: This is you [Js Jc]
kaelder: folds
swoosh72: calls 20
highwayman2: calls 20
THIS IS YOU: raises 120 to 140
moabettah: calls 140
HAILLOW: folds
RickF64: folds
barr_b2: folds
helliott: folds
swoosh72: folds
highwayman2: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [9d 2h 7c]
highwayman2: checks
THIS IS YOU: bets 300
moabettah: raises 1050 to 1350 and is all-in
highwayman2: folds
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:08 AM
Xenod Xenod is offline
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Default Re: Tought spot? What do you do?

That flop isn't nearly scary enough for me to fold an overpair.
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: Tought spot? What do you do?

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That flop isn't nearly scary enough for me to fold an overpair.

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the flop isn't coordinated enough for me to put him on a draw. It also isn't likely that someone slow played TPTK when the top pair on the board is nines.

I raise a little less preflop; I like the raise after the flop and I usually fold to their allin.

zip
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:41 AM
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I like raising a lot PF with Jacks or better. Most people find themselves reasons to call with [censored] holdings I find. But I play the 22 and 33 SitNgos, maybe a little different. Anyways for him to be playing a hand like that I'd have to think he has aces. Kings would even be a completely [censored] up play. Aces would be a weird play but an acceptable one at times since he can trap smaller big pairs or top pairs on the flop. The flop is pretty raggedy, why would he try to push you out if he flopped a set? woudnl't he want the other guy to call too? Especially if he puts you on AK (though given your PF raise he probably puts you on a big pair). I think the only reasonable hand he could have is aces. I think I'd have to call this. Another factor is how are the games usually? i play at party and when there's still 8~10 ppl left ppl are goin all in on middle pairs to top pairs with garbage kickers. His range of hands offer too many things like Ace 9 or King9 for me to fold this. What do you guys think
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:43 AM
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I like raising a lot PF with Jacks or better. Most people find themselves reasons to call with [censored] holdings I find. But I play the 22 and 33 SitNgos, maybe a little different. Anyways for him to be playing a hand like that I'd have to think he has aces. Kings would even be a completely [censored] up play. Aces would be a weird play but an acceptable one at times since he can trap smaller big pairs or top pairs on the flop. The flop is pretty raggedy, why would he try to push you out if he flopped a set? woudnl't he want the other guy to call too? Especially if he puts you on AK (though given your PF raise he probably puts you on a big pair). I think the only reasonable hand he could have is aces. I think I'd have to call this. Another factor is how are the games usually? i play at party and when there's still 8~10 ppl left ppl are goin all in on middle pairs to top pairs with garbage kickers. His range of hands offer too many things like Ace 9 or King9 for me to fold this. What do you guys think

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I read the hand wrong...I thought it was headsup at this point. perhaps a call is correct.
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Old 12-04-2005, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: Tought spot? What do you do?

You committed almost half you chips before you were faced with a difficult decision; the decision has already been made
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: Tought spot? What do you do?

I like your line ok. but it did tell him what you have. So he knows you have a hand and comes over the top anyway.
I'm pretty sure you ran into QQ or with any luck JJ

you still have over 1000 chips and blinds are low, I'd hate it, but would fold.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: Tought spot? What do you do?

easy easy call here in early stage of tourney. you will see worse hands well more than enough to make it +EV.most times i expect to see two overcards here who assume that is what you had and missed the flop.

Pat
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Tought spot? What do you do?

lets see..villan cold call 7x BB raise with players behind him. then pushes over the top of your nice size bet on a pretty raggy flop. I don't see 99 or 77 calling this much PF, and I dont see AK, AQs going over the top of you on flop. So to me that leaves AA, KK, QQ, and maybe TT.
If I had TT I would prob not push here, and I wouldnt slowplay QQ Preflop with others behind me.
So, its AA, or KK in my mind.
Thirdly, the level is 10/20..and if you fold you still have chips (about 1k?).

I hate it..but I fold.

Brian
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Old 12-04-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Tought spot? What do you do?

I think you bet less post flop and fold to the c/r.

I think with blinds so small and already some limpers I'd play JJ like a medium pair preflop and limp for set value.
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