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Old 08-12-2005, 03:42 AM
MikeNaked MikeNaked is offline
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Villain is 16/12/2.3/29 after 390 hands. Weak sauce or hot sauce?
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: too much respect?

Way too much.
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: too much respect?

please tell me this was a joke or error or something. people dont flop flushes that often, until another spade hits i'm not worried. we still have 4 outs on the river if we're behind and i seriously doubt we are.
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: too much respect?

Unless SB is on a complete bluff, what does he check raise with that bottom 2 pair beats?
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: too much respect?

I'd call down. He seems like the type to wait for a blank turn to do something with an ace.
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: too much respect?

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Unless SB is on a complete bluff, what does he check raise with that bottom 2 pair beats?

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Any ace, 5, 2. Any PP. Any High spade card. Anything. Really.

I think this was a bad fold.
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: too much respect?

I think I'm 3betting the turn &amp; calling a cap.
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: too much respect?

Any ace, K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], pocket pairs with a spade, lots more.
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: too much respect?

I'd definitely call down, but I think people are over estimating how often hero is ahead here. The only "real" check raising hand that a decent villain has here that hero beats is Ax.
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: too much respect?

I just want to say, I would call down too. I'm giving reasons why his turn fold sucks.
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