Simple PL hand- KoTZ

TomHimself · #1 08-04-2005, 10:39 PM

PokerStars (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of 15.
5 folds, Button raises 90, Hero (poster) calls, 1 fold.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets 120, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets 240, Hero folds.

Final Pot:
What do you do here, I think I should've jsut folded pf but since I calle dhow do you approach this, I think I played this incredibly weak and am looking for some ideas

cha59 · #2 08-04-2005, 10:50 PM

Maybe I'm weak tight, but I fold preflop, or after the flop bet, or after the turn bet.

You have no hand and even though youre drawing to a big hand, it isnt that big with only a 7 high flush draw.

TomHimself · #3 08-04-2005, 11:07 PM

yea i definately made a mistake by calling pf, should've just folded. But when I do call and get a flop like this how should I play it, no real reads BTW

SossMan · #4 08-05-2005, 12:13 AM

stacks?

TomHimself · #5 08-05-2005, 12:20 AM

BB (1820 in chips)
UTG (1640 in chips)
UTG1(2445 in chips)
MP (1350 in chips)
MP1 (2030 in chips)
CO (3070 in chips)
Button (2185 in chips)
Hero (1450 in chips)

PokerStars (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of 15.
5 folds, Button raises 90, Hero (poster) calls, 1 fold.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets 120, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets 240, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t690

sorry didnt even realize stacks were missing

SossMan · #6 08-05-2005, 12:50 AM

i might lead the turn there for 240.

but if i checked, i would fold for the 240 bet.

you can fold preflop if you are going to play a flushdraw that slow.

ansky451 · #7 08-05-2005, 09:37 AM

I think a big check raise on the turn represents 2 pair, and against a pretty solid opponent will get him to fold top pair a good % of the time. Thoughts?

reecelights · #8 08-05-2005, 10:20 AM

I think it's OK (after the flop) to play it the way you did. If you call the turn and a river heart comes, he probably won't call a very big bet, so you're not getting very big implied odds here. You could try to get tricky, but if villian actually has a hand it just costs you more.

If you want to try to hit your river flush, maybe make a lead, blocking bet of 180 which gives you about 3.5-1 pot odds (still less than the 4-1 you need to hit your NOT a nut flush), and which had he bet 180, you might call. If he raises, you're gone.

I think he was protecting a made hand and is unlikely to fold to anything but a check-raise on the turn. I think you're in trouble here and should cut your losses.

Of course...my name is Chuck and I am Weak/Tight (but play a LOT of PL).