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Old 07-14-2005, 02:03 PM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default Re: Final WSOP hand from last night

Clearly a brilliant laydown for Black to be so sure as to lay it down face up.

When Matusow calls another ~7XBB BTF, I would suspect a premium hand. ATF, whiffed flops probably don't bet a dry pot. And Black can only beat 88 and JJ which have outs to the nuts, which would probably take a free card anyhow.

when Black checks the flop, I think Matusow should bet less, maybe 1/2-3/4 the side pot (T150,000-T200,000). AceTen wants to be able to get away from the hand.

After playing for so long, they must both have deep insights into one anothers play.
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:45 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Final WSOP hand from last night

Because I think JJ and AK may very well bet as well and there's more combos of AK around.

I don't think it needed to be a big bet, though. Something like 200K would've been plenty to find out if he was beat.
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: Final WSOP hand from last night

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However, I think Black needs to bet the flop himself.

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Given your read, what does this accomplish? The only hands that fold in the range you postulated are ones that he beats, if he gets repopped with AK (unlikely, I'll admit, but Matusow is very aggressive) it's a disaster. If you're going to fold to a check/bet, I don't see what good throwing up a flop blocker is, because you're out of position and going to be in the exact same place on the turn if Matusow calls only with an even bigger pot.

Alos, given how aggressive Matusow is, what weight do you give to the possibility that he's doing this with a mediocre holding, like some kind of low-middle pair? Clearly if Black can fold QQ there he would be right to attack like this, particularly since the side pot is not dry.
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: Final WSOP hand from last night

Meh. This whole thing is moot anyway. Black should raise to 600k at least preflop.
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:08 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Final WSOP hand from last night

If you get called on the flop I think you're beat almost every time and can just check/fold from there.

I might be wrong BTW, but only because of HoH2 (where Harrington has this giant leak of never betting other people out when he flops a middle pair.) If all pros think like that checking it down would be fine.
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