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#3
12-29-2005, 03:52 PM
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Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
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I'd have gone for a check-raise here. As you've played it though, 3-bet push. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I like a checkraise. If he calls your checkraise, whats your play on the turn if you miss everything? I prefer to get it all in on the flop if i can. 
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#4
12-29-2005, 04:58 PM
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Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
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[ QUOTE ] I'd have gone for a check-raise here. As you've played it though, 3-bet push. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I like a checkraise. If he calls your checkraise, whats your play on the turn if you miss everything? I prefer to get it all in on the flop if i can. [/ QUOTE ] The check-raise would be all in, [censored] how much is in the pot if he bets or whatever, I want to take it down and have a huge hand with a bazillion outs.
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#5
12-29-2005, 05:36 PM
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Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'd have gone for a check-raise here. As you've played it though, 3-bet push. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I like a checkraise. If he calls your checkraise, whats your play on the turn if you miss everything? I prefer to get it all in on the flop if i can. [/ QUOTE ] The check-raise would be all in, [censored] how much is in the pot if he bets or whatever, I want to take it down and have a huge hand with a bazillion outs. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to hear others thoughts on this play. Sure you can take down the (REALLY) tiny pot, but this way you're really not getting any value out of your big hand. By 3 bet pushing, it looks more like a SB special 2 pair or something of the sort. We would be happy to take it down on the flop (with more money in the pot) but if we get called, we have "a bajillion outs."
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#6
12-29-2005, 05:41 PM
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Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'd have gone for a check-raise here. As you've played it though, 3-bet push. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I like a checkraise. If he calls your checkraise, whats your play on the turn if you miss everything? I prefer to get it all in on the flop if i can. [/ QUOTE ] The check-raise would be all in, [censored] how much is in the pot if he bets or whatever, I want to take it down and have a huge hand with a bazillion outs. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to hear others thoughts on this play. Sure you can take down the (REALLY) tiny pot, but this way you're really not getting any value out of your [p]big hand. [/b] By 3 bet pushing, it looks more like a SB special 2 pair or something of the sort. We would be happy to take it down on the flop (with more money in the pot) but if we get called, we have "a bajillion outs." [/ QUOTE ] By - big hand - you mean our big draw? Sure we're the favorite on the flop to nearly every hand - but if we wait for the turn - we're usually a 2:1 or 3:2 dog...the pot may become bigger but our odds of winning are less... I'd only move in on the turn if I sensed weakness in the villian and knew my FE to be through the roof. Note: I've "slowplayed" exactly one draw. I had 2nd pair, and an OESFD on the flop. We don't have a hand worth 'slowplaying' here
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#7
12-29-2005, 05:47 PM
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Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
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By - big hand - you mean our big draw? Sure we're the favorite on the flop to nearly every hand - but if we wait for the turn - we're usually a 2:1 or 3:2 dog...the pot may become bigger but our odds of winning are less... I'd only move in on the turn if I sensed weakness in the villian and knew my FE to be through the roof. Note: I've "slowplayed" exactly one draw. I had 2nd pair, and an OESFD on the flop. We don't have a hand worth 'slowplaying' here [/ QUOTE ] I don't want to slowplay at all. I want to 3 bet push as Scuba did, not checkraise push as tigrite wanted to. It adds chips to the pot, and makes our hand look as strong as possible. There will be 90 chips in the pot if we checkraise push, but if we 3 bet push, there are 210. I think it gives us more credibility for a strong hand, and increases our FE. And i consider this hand a big hand because even tho its not a MADE hand, its still a favorite against most hands on this flop. Maybe i should have used the term "huge draw." My appologies.
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#8
12-29-2005, 03:51 PM
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Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
If you are going to fold vs. resistance with 2nd pair and 4 to a flush, then you need to start folding these hands pre-flop. Otherwise you are hoping to flop made hands, and that doesn't happen enough for you to be profitable.
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#9
12-29-2005, 03:53 PM
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Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
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If you are going to fold vs. resistance with 2nd pair and 4 to a flush, then you need to start folding these hands pre-flop. Otherwise you are hoping to flop made hands, and that doesn't happen enough for you to be profitable. [/ QUOTE ] Why the tone? I didn't show hero's action. I'm aware of my pot equity here. The question is, do I have enough FE to make this worthwhile often enough?
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#10
12-29-2005, 04:17 PM
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Re: Playing from the blinds: 9Ts
A) No tone, real, implied, imagined or otherwise.
B) Reply was not to OP, but to responder who said fold.
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