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Old 05-01-2005, 12:08 AM
tbach24 tbach24 is offline
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Default Raise the turn?

I'm a really bad turn player so far I think

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

He's lead out wtih TPTK before and just called my raise (capped the river when he hit trips and I beat him with my FB tho [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]). So I'm really not too sure
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:17 AM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: Raise the turn?

yes..punish him.
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:22 AM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: Raise the turn?

The only thing you are really punishing is a hand like KdQd here. More often than not, you fold a much weaker hand here by raising, when you would rather have them stick around bet into you on the river. I like a call.
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: Raise the turn?

I am raising this turn.
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:24 AM
Bradyams Bradyams is offline
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Default Re: Raise the turn?

Ya raise him on the turn. Depending on the opponent, most won't bet out with a straight draw on the flop. I think at worst here you'll see villain has two pair on the turn, but you have plenty of outs to beat him if you are actually behind (Four 8s, and the 6 cards that can pair up to counterfeit his two pair).
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:25 AM
SoftcoreRevolt SoftcoreRevolt is offline
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Default Re: Raise the turn?

I am raising the roof on this turn.
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:25 AM
Bradyams Bradyams is offline
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Default Re: Raise the turn?

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The only thing you are really punishing is a hand like KdQd here. More often than not, you fold a much weaker hand here by raising, when you would rather have them stick around bet into you on the river. I like a call.

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You don't think villain will call a raise, and a river bet with a pair of nines?
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:26 AM
Ianco15 Ianco15 is offline
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Default Re: Raise the turn?

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most won't bet out with a straight draw on the flop.

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I disagree, but I am still raising this turn for a different reason: It is likely we still have the best hand. Reads are very critical here. Many opponents will bet into a flop raiser on the turn with unimproved TP.
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:29 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Raise the turn?

I raise the turn.
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:55 AM
@bsolute_luck @bsolute_luck is offline
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Default Re: Raise the turn?

i had 2 similar situations happend yesterday. i can't seem to figure out why someone would stop-n-go here.

thinking about this hand (reads help..but who doesn't know that?!), what seems to really help is taking your thinking a step further from what do you think he has to what do you think he thinks you have.

i think he has a pair of 9s, thinks you have UI overcards and when the turn comes a blank, bets again. any other hand (trip 9s, made straight) would c/r here IMHO.
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