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Old 07-24-2005, 12:38 PM
steveyz steveyz is offline
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Default KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

First time playing in about 2 month (due to a lot of traveling). No read or stats on any of the opponents here.

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Party Poker (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I raise, EP folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>

BB checks, I bet, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO folds, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, I bet, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, BB folds.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero ???
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Old 07-24-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

I'm betting, I think JT will check behind here but would call 1 more bet.
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Old 07-24-2005, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

very easy bet....
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Old 07-24-2005, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

Call a raise or no?
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

I would check call. You've got 3 people in the hand with a 4 straight as well as the nut straight (Q/J). Those people all called 2 cold preflopo. Your hand is behind to A/K, K/Q, Q/J, K/10 and as of the river any hand with an 8. You also chop with any other K/J. If it's raised are you planning on calling? I dont see how you can call or want to call if the river is raised here.

I just saw your post above mine. Like I said I can't see how you call a raise here. All you beat is a pure bluff. There are too many legitimate hands that are raising this river for you to think your K/J is good here. That's why I don't see how this is an easy bet.
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

I don't see how this is an easy bet either. What range of hands have you assigned to your opponents here?
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

Without reads, I bet for value and don't think it's close. If I give my opponents much respect... well, how could they have played their hand this way? They just have to be the loose passive payoff machines against whom a river value bet is clear.

Good luck.
Eric
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Old 07-25-2005, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

Some awful pair. What range of hands are you putting them on that we're in trouble? Sure if they were any good they'd have to have us beat here, but I keep betting these rivers and I keep getting called by Ax awful pair.
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Old 07-25-2005, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

Where do you find these guys? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: KJs UTG river decision (Party 30/60)

Without a read, would you call a raise?
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