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Old 10-13-2004, 11:10 PM
El Barto El Barto is offline
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KERRY: We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as.

Why did Kerry bring up Cheney's daughter? Do you find this at all offensive?

KERRY: And I've met wives who are supportive of their husbands or vice versa when they finally sort of broke out and allowed themselves to live who they were, who they felt God had made them.

Can anyone tell me what the hell he is talking about here? Is he saying, "wives stay tied to your gay husbands"?
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:13 PM
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No, he's saying they are supportive of them. Not sure what's not clear about that second quotation.
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:16 PM
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I thought it was telling that Bush emphasized how much he loved his wife, while Kerry talked about "Marrying Up".
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:28 PM
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I thought it was telling that Bush emphasized how much he loved his wife, while Kerry talked about "Marrying Up".

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I thought it was telling that Bush didn't get the joke.
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:38 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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probably because Bush opposes gay marriage, but thats just my guess.
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:57 PM
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I thought it was a bit strange - Edwards did the same thing ... "your GAY daughter". They are obviously trying to make their opponents uncomfortable and it came across as a bit offensive IMO.
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:05 AM
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i think it is much more offensive to the gay community that the president and vice president are anti gay marriage then it is that edwards pointed out that Cheaney cannot support his own daughter's lifestyle...

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Old 10-14-2004, 12:08 AM
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agreed - but I was just commenting on how those specific comments in the debate struck me.
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:09 AM
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i think it is much more offensive to the gay community that the president and vice president are anti gay marriage then it is that edwards pointed out that Cheaney cannot support his own daughter's lifestyle...

rj

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The issue is not the gay community - they support Kerry anyway. The issue is do people in general like a politician to go after other people's family members.
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:11 AM
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KERRY: We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as.

Why did Kerry bring up Cheney's daughter? Do you find this at all offensive?

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I found it very offensive. Edwards was even worse, saying it to Cheney's face. I thought Cheney showed remarkable restraint not personally reacting to Edwards. I think that the mop tops were trying to paint a picture of disagreement if not hypocrisy in the Bush-Cheney unity. There have been hints in the press that Cheney may not be as strongly opposed to gay marriage as Bush because of Cheney's daughter, but that he toes the Party line in support of Bush.

Kerry and Edwards were both way out of line bringing up family matters. I'd expect it from Edwards. If Kerry had any class, he would have kicked Edwards butt about it to begin with, not tagged along. More evidence that Kerry will do or say anything to get elected. Apparently Mrs. Cheney had some Teresa Heinz-like things to say about Kerry bringing it up.
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