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Old 09-01-2004, 03:15 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Based on some comments from my recent HH's I'm thinking of tightening up here considerably.

I also think this is a worthwhile discussion because there seems to be quite a gap in how many of us view these hands (most fall somewhere around DEFINITELY playable or DEFINITELY NOT playable).


Some examples that I would like input on: (assume typical 10-handed Party 2/4 or 3/6 with no reads)

UTG raises, all 6 players cold-call (no one has folded yet)
you:
1. 65s on button
2. K2s on button
3. Q8s on button
4. 22 on button


UTG raises, next 3 players cold-call,
you:
5. MP with 22
6. MP with 98s

UTG raises, UTG+1 re-raises, UTG+2 caps, MP calls
you:
7. MP with 99
8. MP with JTs
9. MP with 65s
10. MP with A6s


FWIW - The way I currently play I would call each of these except for #9.


But I can't seem to locate any strong evidence to support my long-held ideas that it is okay to cold-call with PP or suited-connectors if the pot is multi-way enough. So I'm trying to decide if I want to tighten WAY up on these.


I'm curious what others have to say about these.
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Old 09-01-2004, 03:20 AM
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This is quick and I'm tired so I reserve the right to change my answers but here is my first impression.

UTG raises, all 6 players cold-call (no one has folded yet)
you:
1. 65s on button - Call (this may be close)
2. K2s on button - Fold (this may be close)
3. Q8s on button - Fold (Q9s may be close
4. 22 on button - Call

UTG raises, next 3 players cold-call,
you:
5. MP with 22 - call
6. MP with 98s - fold (this may be close)

UTG raises, UTG+1 re-raises, UTG+2 caps, MP calls
you:
7. MP with 99 - fold
8. MP with JTs - fold
9. MP with 65s - fold
10. MP with A6s - fold
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Old 09-01-2004, 03:36 AM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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I call 1, 4, 5, and 6. Playing any of 7-10 is complete suicide.

-Michael
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Old 09-01-2004, 04:41 AM
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I call 1,4,5,6 for sure. 2,3 could go either way I really don't know but it's probably close. 7-10 are easy easy easy folds. You should only be calling with AA/KK and maybe QQ there.
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Old 09-01-2004, 06:12 AM
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1,4,5 call
6 close, maybe call?

everything else: fold
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Old 09-01-2004, 06:13 AM
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Default I\'d like to see some authority (Ed et al) replying to this NT

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Old 09-01-2004, 06:26 AM
balkii balkii is offline
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1,4 and maybe 3, call.

5, maybe 6.

7 thru 10 you have got to be kidding me. Anyone who pays 4 bets cold for any of these hands (99, notsomuch, but its still bad) gets a note in my book. A6s, good lord!
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Old 09-01-2004, 06:57 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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anybody who coldcalls 7-10 deserves to get peed on.
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Old 09-01-2004, 07:03 AM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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Hmm...I'm going to coldcall more. I usually have to pay a lot more than $12 for that.

-Michael
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Old 09-01-2004, 07:07 AM
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Default Agree completely. N/M

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