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Old 10-06-2005, 10:50 AM
mjohnson406 mjohnson406 is offline
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Default KK - pay off river?

I'm new to short handed play so I'm still getting used to the aggression. What should be my response on this river raise?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero ?
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Old 10-06-2005, 10:51 AM
danzasmack danzasmack is offline
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Default Re: KK - pay off river?

call and make a note
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:16 AM
meow_meow meow_meow is offline
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Default Re: KK - pay off river?

It should be between calling and raising, not calling and folding (though I think calling is the way to go).
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: KK - pay off river?

Definite call, youll see people sitting on a Q or J or bluffing enough more than enough to make it +EV.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:44 PM
RaiNz RaiNz is offline
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Default Re: KK - pay off river?

Easy call.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:48 PM
Poldi Poldi is offline
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Default Re: KK - pay off river?

clear call. Your hand is good often enough to call profitably. Raising may be an option against some villains but this here is not very aggro and you open yourself to a cap. You dont want to fold to a river cap, do ya?
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:51 PM
GetThere1Time GetThere1Time is offline
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Default Re: KK - pay off river?

Sure without a read I'm paying it off since you standard 6 maxer is a goof, but I think not folding here is a leak in my game. How often is 1 pair winning against the river c/r from a passivish BB. Plus the pot's kind of small. I personally pay it off but I think this is a big leak in my game. I don't think it's such an easy call as everyone thinks.
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Old 10-06-2005, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: KK - pay off river?

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I personally pay it off but I think this is a big leak in my game. I don't think it's such an easy call as everyone thinks.

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I agree. I always seem to pay this off, but a river c/r is rarely a bluff. If you think this would be a bluff only 1/10 then you must fold.
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