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Old 07-10-2005, 10:54 AM
mbraudel mbraudel is offline
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Default 4 big post-flop hands

Here are four hands from yesterday. My post-flop decisions on each one cost me an entire buy-in.

Two of these I would have won by staying in; two I would have saved by folding.

Overall, I was up 5 buy-ins for the day, so I'm not complaining. But if I'd gotten these right, my profits would have nearly doubled.

Comments? Insight? Derision? Laughter?

Hand 1: KK facing opposition
Hand 2: Flopped a set, possible straight
Hand 3: Weak TPTK
Hand 4: Rivered KK vs flush possibility

Hand 1--

Across 68 hands, opponent is 12% VP$IP. I don't have significant post-flop data on him.

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MP1 ($28.6)
MP2 ($32.1)
CO ($27.25)
Button ($64.3)
SB ($23.55)
BB ($5.65)
Hero ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($2.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, SB calls $1.

Turn: ($4.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero ?.


Hand Two: Flopped a set, vs possible straight


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MP3 ($23.5)
Hero ($24.85)
Button ($21.25)
SB ($16.55)
BB ($20.8)
UTG ($34.49)
UTG+1 ($27)
MP1 ($24.75)
MP2 ($16.4)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.25</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25.

Turn: ($2) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, Hero ?


Hand 3: Weak TPTK

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CO ($11.8)
Button ($24.25)
SB ($26.1)
Hero ($33.3)
UTG ($14.65)
UTG+1 ($25.75)
MP1 ($3.4)
MP2 ($45.22)
MP3 ($22.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1.5</font>, SB folds, Hero ?


Hand 4: Rivered KK vs possible flush

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MP3 ($31.64)
CO ($34.37)
Button ($58.75)
SB ($11.97)
Hero ($24.45)
UTG ($15.45)
UTG+1 ($5)
UTG+2 ($29.15)
MP1 ($41.8)
MP2 ($29.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, UTG calls $0.75, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, SB folds.

Flop: ($2.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, UTG calls $2.

Turn: ($6.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: ($6.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ?
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Old 07-10-2005, 11:40 AM
Voltron87 Voltron87 is offline
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Default Re: 4 big post-flop hands

1. bet more on the flop
2. wtf are you betting so small on the flop for?
3. probably fold
4. bet 3-4
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:05 PM
theben theben is offline
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Default Re: 4 big post-flop hands

1. bet more on the flop. if you didnt bet more, then call the small turn raise and be careful on the tbier

2. bet a lot more on the flop

3. fold

4. blockbet the river or check-call a small bet. your action strongly depends on your opponent here
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Old 07-10-2005, 01:15 PM
Wayfare Wayfare is offline
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Default Re: 4 big post-flop hands

Hand 1: Bet flop more. Call turn and see what he does river wise. No way you should fold. Also find a better opponent at those stakes. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Hand 2: Bet $1 or more on the flop. Call the turn and jack up his river bet if you boat. If you don't you can make an opponent-specific decision, but it's still probably a call unless you really know your guy.

Hand 3: Hero folds.

Hand 4: Hero raises more preflop or doesn't raise at all. Hero bets $4 at the end because he has no reason to suspect opponent has a flush. Hero folds to large raise, calls min raise, and usually wins.
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