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Old 11-17-2005, 04:56 AM
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Kill Phil: The Fast Track to Success in No-Limit Hold 'Em Poker Tournaments by Blair Rodman and Dr. Lee Nelson

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With this year’s $50 million prize pool, the World Series of Poker is now the richest sporting event in the world—and anyone can enter. There’s only one problem: No-limit hold ’em, is a tough game. That’s where HP’s newest blockbuster title, Kill Phil, comes in.
The Kill Phil strategies have been designed so that even a rank novice can compete with the world’s best players.
• Master “Kill Phil Rookie” in an hour and hold your own in your first tournament.
• Implement Kill Phil’s advanced strategies as you gain real-time experience.
• Adjust your play for online tournaments, Sit-n-Go’s, and single-table satellites.
• Phil Hellmuth, Jr. wrote the Foreword to the book that aims to put him out of business.

Has anyone read this yet?
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Old 11-21-2005, 01:05 AM
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Yes, I have. It describes a very strong strategy for tournament novices. The strategy is presented at number of levels from 'rookie' to 'intermediate/advanced'. It basically utilizes the 'all-in move pre-flop' as the equalizer against the more experienced and professional players. It exploits a fundamental flaw in the no-limit game [also alluded to by Ed Miller's short-stacked cash game strategy]. The authors recognized that beginners will be out-played after the flop, and so the strategy attempts to force the pros to gamble for all of their money pre-flop on a coin-toss, which most want to avoid, and so allow the beginner to take down pots. The strategy also utilzes hand rankings that are tuned to the 'all-in' move so that should the novice get called, he has a reasonable chance of surviving. At the basic level, the strategy is pretty much mechanical [including a simple post-flop strategy] but as he progresses to the advanced sections, he starts to learn about the principles of strong tournament play - stack size considerations, relying less on the all-in move, playing the players, etc. In a nutshell, the Kill Phil strategy 'levels' the playing field for the beginning tournament player while he gains experience and expertise.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:22 AM
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Old 11-21-2005, 11:12 AM
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So is it the same as Sklansky's "System"?
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:22 PM
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The concept of "The System" and "Kill Phil" strategy are the same, but Kill Phil expands upon it over 200 pages and doesn't entirely depend on the all-in move. Kill Phil also contains a section comparing it to "The System", comparing it's strengths and weaknesses.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:30 PM
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Hi Toonces:

I have not yet looked at Kill Phil, but I do know Blair Rodman and he is certainly very smart and very capable. From the above description, this book certainly sounds like an extension of David's "System." That's perfectly okay, and I'm glad to hear that there is a comparison section.

best wishes,
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Old 11-22-2005, 05:03 PM
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It most definitely is derived from Mr. Sklansky's "System". The authors make several references to it throughout the book.

The theory behind Mr. Sklansky's "System" is was drives the book and it's strategies.
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Old 11-22-2005, 07:41 PM
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It is based on the same concepts as Slanksy's system but the Kill Phil book is more detailed, and provides a more practical approach, e.g. provision of a detailed foundational [almost a cookbook approach] strategy that can be deviated from as you gain more tournament skill and experience. The book also discusses advanced concepts and principles about tournament play that provide guidelines for deviating from the basic strategy. Howard Schwartz [Gambler's Book Club] gives a fairly detailed review of the book if you want to find out more about its contents. The link is http://schwartz.casinocitytimes.com/...es/23111.html.
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Old 11-22-2005, 10:10 PM
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Sorry, the link I posted appears to be broken. Following is the review of Kill Phil by Howard Schwartz.

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Poker players who love or dislike Phil Hellmuth (his arrogance and ego could put King Kong on tilt many claim), there's a book title worth remembering--Kill Phil by Blair Rodman and Lee Nelson (275 pages, paperbound, $24.95).

Subtitled The Fast Track to Success in No-Limit Hold'em Poker Events, the indexed book contains four parts and 13 chapters. Russ Hamilton, who won the World Series of Poker at Binion's in 1994 calls this work "The best book on no-limit hold'em I've ever read."

"The Kill Phil strategy is designed to take advantage of what we, and many others, feel is a weakness in no-limit hold'em tournaments -- the overemphasis on the all-in move in the later stages," the authors emphasize.

This is an interesting work in more ways than one.

It's both instructive overall, by analyzing players and their styles and covers much territory often neglected or skimmed over by other books and theorists.

Rodman, a world class 21 player, competed in the World Series of Poker and Nelson, one of Australia's best players, examine "small ball" players who "chip away with a variety of intricate strategies"--including being involved in many pots " Š waiting for the fattest opportunities," especially those which occur after the flop.

The "long ball" players (similar to home run hitting), usually apply their skills before the flop.

This book begins to pick up steam after page 30. (Earlier sections background the history of tournament poker, the early days of the World Series and compare the older generation players' traits with those of the new.)

The serious, calculating player will learn more about concepts like the "chip-status index," and how to calculate the CPR (cost per round).

The authors discuss playing aces or kings early with small blinds and a large stack; basic post-flop play. There's a small (two pages) section on sit-n-go tournaments and single-table satellites; two pages on online play and an interesting section (three pages) on how to avoid tells.

Using "downtime to learn" -- meaning when you're not in action, don't get lazy -- observe your opponents' play.

Rodman and Nelson examine how to play according to your stack size; playing the player and the power of the re-raise; along with table image and how to change gears.

By Chapter Nine, the book is a high-balling freight train, with knockout moves called Advanced Post-Flop Strategy being detailed. This includes situations like Heads-Up, Unraised Pot, You Act First or You Act Last; followed by Counting Outs; Trapping and Avoiding Traps; Avoiding Pre-Flop Traps and Trapping Post-Flop.

Many players have their own theories about how Playing Aces. The authors devote a major section to this vital area -- including why "falling in love: with aces can be a major error; when to limp with aces and varying the size of pre-flop raises.

One of the book's more fascinating sections is titled Reverse Tells including Feigning Weakness When You're Strong; how to Appear Indecisive; Conveying Strength When You're Weak.

Players often ask about "deals" (sometime they're allowed, sometimes not) -- the book devotes four pages to this controversial area, where players agree to split tournament prizes.

For those who have never played in a tournament, the book contains a major (24 pages) section to the topic, explaining how grueling they can be; factors like travel; burnout; attitude; rules; table etiquette; penalties; ethics; stalling; playing out of turn.

The book also contains pre and post-flop matchup tables based on expected value; the odds of making your hand with two cards to come; pair probability (A-A through 2-2).

We're probably going to see a dozen more poker books keyed to tournament play; biographies of players who have competed in tournaments and the like, but this one has much to offer, and I'm sure anyone playing in some major tournament will want a copy on the table the next time Hellmuth faces them, like garlic repelling a vampire.

Overall, an intelligent, original effort with many new tournament table survival tips.

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Old 11-22-2005, 11:00 PM
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Hi pwong_au:

Do you have a relationship to Huntington Press or the authors of this book?

MM
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