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Old 12-21-2005, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

So it looks like 2-3BB/100 is in the right ball park?

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Ian
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

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I think a truely great player could probably make 3bb/100.

Do you mean in 2/4 or limit in general?

I also think that most people can never get that good nomatter how much they practice and how much they study.

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I dont know. I think anybody who applies themselves can grind out 3BB/100. IMO anyway

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I doubt it...games have gotten too tight for that IMO. I've got a few thousand hours of live play now and I have estimated a winrate of 3.5BB/100 based win rate and hands per hour. This is mostly at 10/20. I just don't think its sustainable even at the 2/4 level. IMO, there is a huge drop-off in BB/100 from 1/2 to 2/4...bigger than any middle limit drop.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

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I think a truely great player could probably make 3bb/100.

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lol 3bb/100 at 2/4 doesn't even make you a "good" player, let alone a "great" one.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

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I think a truely great player could probably make 3bb/100.

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lol 3bb/100 at 2/4 doesn't even make you a "good" player, let alone a "great" one.

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I don't think they meant a "great overall" player, but great relative to the limit.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

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I think a truely great player could probably make 3bb/100.

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lol 3bb/100 at 2/4 doesn't even make you a "good" player, let alone a "great" one.

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I'm not sure what is it that you are implying, Equal. I'd be surprised if you could find very many limit players who are maintaining a winrate of 3BB/100 (even at 2/4) over any sustained period of time.
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

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I think a truely great player could probably make 3bb/100.

I also think that most people can never get that good nomatter how much they practice and how much they study.

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Old 12-21-2005, 10:11 AM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

I think the question is so different to answer since "good" player is so relative. I assume I would beat 2/4 with 4-5BB/100 if I would be playing it now, yet I would be crushed at a table consisting of the best 2+2'ers, so I am not that good anyway [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Still a player who beats 2/4 with 2BB/100 is good IMO, since understanding poker is necessary to do that.
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Old 12-21-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

it sounds like youre asking if youd be able to beat 2/4 for upwards of 2BB/100 with your knowledge of the game. from an honest perspective from how you sound i dont find it likely. a very good player who could beat much higher games might make 3BB/100. its hard to say. rake is a huge element at this level.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

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Just wondering what a "good, solid" player would be making on the $2/4 limit tables online?

When I say good I mean has a solid understanding and implimentation of the basics- starting hand slection, pot/implied odds, good post-flop play, etc.

(BTW I'm not at the above stage yet- hence me being interested in a typical BB/hr rate for someone has has the fundamentals down.

Would 2BB/hr be unrealistic? Is it likely to be more or less.

I know "it depends...." but if 0.0002BB/hr is too low and 50,0000BB/hr is too high- what are typical values???

Many thanks,
Ian

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4BB/100 if clearing bonus at same time which at 2-4 only makes sense
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Averge BB/hr rate for a \"good\" player- $2/4 limit games???

there is one poster on this board who 8 tables 2/4 for somewhere between 3-4bb/100. he says he has well over 100k hands at that winrate.

one of my housemates 8 tabled 2/4 this fall for a ridiculous winrate over somewhere around 25k hands. although 25k hands is nothing, he is very confident that with good table selecction and decent play its entirely possible to maintain a winrate around 2-2.5bb/100 (on the low side). keep in mind also that someone who 8 tables cannot concentrate nearly as much as a 4 tabler, so i would expect both my housemate and the other 2p2er would have better stats if they played less tables.

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