Explain something to me regarding Juice....

[Uglyowl]

269 Oakland Raiders -3 (+105)
270 New York Jets +3 (-125)

Currently at, pretty standard.

[Post-Oak]

[ QUOTE ]
Extremely well put - nice job.

One miniscule point . . .

-110 / -110 is not a dime line; it's a 20 cent line.

-105 / -105 is a dime line.


[/ QUOTE ]

Actually, -110/-110 is a dime line. -105/-105 is a nickel line.

I just checked the glossary of Stanford Wong's book "Sharp Sports Betting" to be sure.

As an aside, this is a good book. Even Mason Malmuth gave this book a high rating!

[Post-Oak]

[ QUOTE ]
the line I saw was

Jets +3 -130
Oakland -3 100



[/ QUOTE ]

You're right, this is a ripoff.

[ QUOTE ]

Where does bodog get off charging that much?


[/ QUOTE ]

From what I have read, Bodog is one of those books which intentionally tries to avoid taking "wise guy" action. Some books supposedly welcome all comers, but Bodog makes sure to do little things like put up it's lines late, have lower maximum wagers, higher vig (as you showed), etc.

[ QUOTE ]

Oh, also over thanksgiving I saw Indy to win out at 6/1. I left my computer for a few hours and logged back on to place the bet and hedge down the stretch. When I got back on it was 3/1 and the next morning it was 2/1. Today with 4 games left its at 5/9.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's too bad we can't bet the other side!

I remember when Bodog put up a prop where they let you bet the "field" to win the WSOP. It was -150 or -200. Someone on recpoker pointed this out and a bunch of people were able to call up and get approved to bet $500 (the listed maximum for the prop was only $200). By the time I called, they knew not to allow people to go over the max. But they still took the bets! Whoever came up with the price on that prop must have gotten reemed out. The prices they had on the 100 or so listed players were hilariously awful. You could take a guy like Ivey to win and he paid maybe 10 to 1. This was the year Raymer won.

[Post-Oak]

[ QUOTE ]
269 Oakland Raiders -3 (+105)
270 New York Jets +3 (-125)

Currently at, pretty standard.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, ok.

DalaiLama, this is a dime line (as this poster I am quoting is pointing out). You said -125/-105, which would have been 15 cents of vig (if you bet both sides you lose 30 cents).

But it is -125/+105, which means it is a dime line (bet both sides and lose 20 cents). This has long been the industry standard. It is only recently, and with online sportsbooks, that many books are offering -107/-107, -105/-105, -104/-104, etc.

The dime line is so standard it is assumed when you see a spread listed without the "juice".