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While reading through a couple of hands where a villian made a drawing hand to beat a hero who flopped a set or pair, I thought to myself would it be profitable in the long run to go all in every time you flop a set or a pair. I have no idea how to work out the math, but I figure...

most times everyone will fold and you win a little
sometimes some one will call and you win a lot
sometimes some one will call and you lose a lot

In the long run, I think you win. Of course, you should take other things into consideration, but I figure if you are not as good as the others, this might work as opposed to possibly getting out played or beat by a draw.


If not, under what circumstances (if any) would you go all in on the flop.

[Guthrie]

Ask David Sklansky. I understand he has done a considerable amount of math on the subject.

[MrFeelNothin]

Of course this would be profitable, but that is because this is an inherently profitable sitation. It would not be profitable in the sense that there are much better, more nuanced, situationally-dependent ways to play these hands. Any style of play that goes by strict rules such as always do such and such when you have x will never be optimal. Other factors such as the opponents, your image, etc ensure that the best play is always different.


Anyways, I doubt you would make enough on pair+ hands by going all in on the flop to offset blind costs and losses when you miss the flop.

[Justin A]

My advice to you is that you don't try to simplify poker into some easy strategy. It's a complicated game, to beat it you have to learn to treat each situation differently. It takes a lot of work to become better than most of your opponents in this game.

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most times everyone will fold and you win a little
sometimes some one will call and you win a lot
sometimes some one will call and you lose a lot

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The problem occurs when the other players figure out what you're doing.

Then you'll find 1 and 3 happen a lot more than 2.

[TexArcher]

Well, you're only going to pair the flop about once out of three calls. I think the money you lose in blinds and pre-flop calls that miss will be more than the two or three BBs you pick up when you flop something, not to mention that you lose your entire stack the first time you pull that stunt with a pair and someone else flopped a set, or once they figure out what you're doing and they call you with TPTK, or if they flop top pair and a four flush, etc...

I don't see any way this strategy works in the long run.

[deacsoft]

Success % largely based upon the strenght of the preflop hands played by you and your opponents.

[benfranklin]

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If not, under what circumstances (if any) would you go all in on the flop.

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It depends.