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Old 11-12-2005, 12:04 PM
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Default A blind steal - A4o

sb was a passive calling station.
bb was a donky LAG.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

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Old 11-12-2005, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: A blind steal - A4o

Whats the chance of sb folding to a turn raise with anything that we could possibly want to fold out?
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: A blind steal - A4o

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bb was a donky LAG.

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Really a LAG, or just not a very good player? Looks to me like you lost to acey-deucey, and BB is actually kind of passive.

I don't actually like it much. I think you either need to play back at him or GTFO; the only hand you're beating that might hang around is A3, and the calling station worries me more than the LAG does.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: A blind steal - A4o

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sb was a passive calling station.
bb was a donky LAG.

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If this is the kind of sb who'll always defend his blind and never fold postflop, I don't really like stealing with AXo hands. Also, how laggy/donkish is the BB? I assume hes capable of semibluffing a 3-frush board, so I like raising this turn.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: A blind steal - A4o

Calling stations stats: 79%/0%/0.27

I mean he would call down with ANYTHING.

LAG had a great dislike for me as I had beaten him out of a few pots that were "rightfully his."
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:22 PM
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I dont think you can get away if thats what you want. If you got CRd on turn I might fold but a donk? I think you need a read before you can drop it.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:26 PM
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I dont think you can get away if thats what you want. If you got CRd on turn I might fold but a donk? I think you need a read before you can drop it.

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The last thing on my mind is getting away from the hand.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: A blind steal - A4o

What's not to like?
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: A blind steal - A4o

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sb was a passive calling station.
bb was a donky LAG.

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If this is the kind of sb who'll always defend his blind and never fold postflop, I don't really like stealing with AXo hands. Also, how laggy/donkish is the BB? I assume hes capable of semibluffing a 3-frush board, so I like raising this turn.

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I think raising this turn is a bad idea. I used to raise this turn. Now I don't.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: A blind steal - A4o

I can see what youre saying, but against the players you've described? Youre ahead of the LAG the majority of the time, and you mentioned he's been taking shots at you, plus the SB isnt folding any piece of the board. Why not make him pay two bets w/ 87o or something ridiculous?

On, the other hand, the pot isnt that big on the turn, so a suckout isnt that devastating...Whats your reasoning for not wanting to raise the turn?
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