(55) overpair in 50-way pot

schwza · #1 12-14-2005, 03:37 PM

comments on all streets.

i have 665 left. no, i don't remember how bubble doubled up.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t1045)
Hero (t960)
MP1 (t990)
MP2 (t955)
MP3 (t1045)
CO (t940)
Button (t2100)
SB (t910)
BB (t1055)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t55, MP1 calls t55, MP2 calls t55, 2 folds, Button calls t55, SB calls t45, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t330) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t240, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls t240, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: (t810) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
hero?

pineapple888 · #2 12-14-2005, 03:42 PM

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comments on all streets.

i have 665 left. no, i don't remember how bubble doubled up.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t1045)
Hero (t960)
MP1 (t990)
MP2 (t955)
MP3 (t1045)
CO (t940)
Button (t2100)
SB (t910)
BB (t1055)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t55, MP1 calls t55, MP2 calls t55, 2 folds, Button calls t55, SB calls t45, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t330) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t240, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls t240, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: (t810) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
hero?

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is probably screwed. Try to check it down, I guess. Previous action looks fine.

downtown · #3 12-14-2005, 03:47 PM

hero barfs over self...

PF is good, 55 is my typical lvl1 pf raise at the 55s. It's just so damn easy to type, why raise any other amount? (A bit of sarcasm there.)

Flop is ok, but I'm starting to get nervous since there are 24326546 to that flop. What's with all the callers? Weird table. This is a pretty terrible flop for you, but I would bet it as well, and your bet size is fine.

But again, I would probably barf and check/fold the turn. I can't think of any hands you might be ahead of that cold call the flop bet.

jeffraider · #4 12-14-2005, 03:51 PM

Oi not that turn! Check-fold maybe. It sucks but the best you were looking at before from button was A9 or JJ and now you're only beating JJ basically.

#5 12-14-2005, 03:54 PM

A small probe bet on the flop may save you money. Not much to protect against here on this flop. The only question is really "Does someone have a ten?". Find out cheaply. A call OR raise means yes, (or a set of nines). If you got lucky and no one has a ten (or pocket 99), you may just win the pot with a small bet.

bigt439 · #6 12-14-2005, 04:36 PM

I make it 75 in EP. And yes I think it makes a big difference.

downtown · #7 12-14-2005, 04:40 PM

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I make it 75 in EP. And yes I think it makes a big difference.

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Big difference as in you take down just the blinds way more often?

I'm actually curious.

schwza · #8 12-14-2005, 04:46 PM

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I make it 75 in EP. And yes I think it makes a big difference.

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Big difference as in you take down just the blinds way more often?

I'm actually curious.

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with pretty much all of the hands i raise in EP level 1, i'd prefer that villains call with anything marginal. the argument for raising to 75 would be to get more chips in.

pineapple888 · #9 12-14-2005, 04:55 PM

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I make it 75 in EP. And yes I think it makes a big difference.

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Big difference as in you take down just the blinds way more often?

I'm actually curious.

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with pretty much all of the hands i raise in EP level 1, i'd prefer that villains call with anything marginal. the argument for raising to 75 would be to get more chips in.

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I see it as a slightly different goal: get the same number of chips in the middle as in this hand, but with fewer donks in the pot to outdraw you.

downtown · #10 12-14-2005, 04:55 PM

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I make it 75 in EP. And yes I think it makes a big difference.

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Big difference as in you take down just the blinds way more often?

I'm actually curious.

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with pretty much all of the hands i raise in EP level 1, i'd prefer that villains call with anything marginal. the argument for raising to 75 would be to get more chips in.

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I understand, but my question is does it work? I think even $55 donks tighten up to a 5BB raise from EP... but I'm not putting anything past them.

FWIW, I once noticed a regular open raising to 10BBs in level 1... I got to heads up with him and asked him in the chat if this worked well for him, but he was tight lipped... interesting to discuss, but I'll stick with 55 myself.