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#1
12-10-2005, 02:20 AM
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Blind battle
Online, 5 handed
The Button just sat down a couple orbits ago but he seems like he might play okay. He showed down a couple decent hands and has played those pretty agressively. It's folded the Button and he raises. SB folds, I call in the BB w/ Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Flop is 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] How do we want to go from here? What if: 1. We check-raise and he 3-bets? 2. We ghey bet and he raises? 3. We miss on the turn? 4. We catch on the river? (I realize the answers to 3 and 4 might be different depending on how prior events, but try to humor me if you can.) 
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#2
12-10-2005, 02:25 AM
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Re: Blind battle
I usually c/r this flop, although I'd consider making it 3 preflop. We have more semibluff power with a c/r and lead than we do by donking. We also have a huge draw, so we don't mind calling a 3bet all that much.
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#3
12-10-2005, 02:28 AM
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Re: Blind battle
c/r flop...call if 3bet...c/r when improved...ghey betting is too transparent, I highly doubt hes gonna fall for a bet/3bet trap...
Actually I don't mind attempting a bet/3bet line if you improve to a non-flush straight.
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#4
12-10-2005, 02:49 AM
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Re: Blind battle
If I'm not 3-betting preflop with this then I'm checkraising any remotely decent flop, and this is a damned fine flop. I c/r, call a 3-bet, catch a K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the river and thank God I play at a site with a large Royal Flush bonus [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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#5
12-10-2005, 03:01 AM
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Re: Blind battle
Since it's 5-handed and button is good enough to fold, I can understand the desire to get a little frisky with this hand.
Normally though, I'll just play this fish style with the check/call until I hit. I dunno, I just know when I get C/R'd on the flop in these blind battles I immediately think "draw".
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#6
12-10-2005, 03:07 AM
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Re: Blind battle
I think I have to do something other than check/call to give him a chance to fold.
The consensus seems to be to check and raise, which is as good an option as any, and it's also what I would usually do in this spot. However, when it was my turn I stopped to think about how I would feel if I was in the Button's spot with a hand like 88 and the BB bet this flop. Anyway, that's why I posted it. Are you guys never bet/calling in this situation? Is it always check/raise or bet/3-bet? What about the double-donk if you don't catch, or the double-donk/3-bet if you do?
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#7
12-10-2005, 03:14 AM
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Re: Blind battle
Bet/Call? Double-Donk? These plays dont exist in my arsenal
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#8
12-10-2005, 03:33 AM
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Re: Blind battle
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I think I have to do something other than check/call to give him a chance to fold. [/ QUOTE ] Don't disagree - I was just saying I think most people habitually C/R this vs. anybody and I don't think that's right. I bet/call sometimes. When I'm in villian's seat, donkbets seem to annoy me more than C/R's FWIW.
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#9
12-10-2005, 06:51 AM
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Re: Blind battle
grunch...
1) we cap 2) we 3bet 3) we slow down... unless we have reason to believe we may have fold equity; such as he calls the flop checkraise 4) depends entirely on the action. if we got in a position to check/call the turn we can checkraise the river. if we led the turn we need to lead the river Edit: I think we need to cap the flop for metagame considerations. against an aggressive player he aint gonna forget that you capped against him, whether you hit or not; and he aint attacking your blinds so lightly next time.
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