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Old 11-21-2005, 12:32 PM
ononimo ononimo is offline
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Berating players as you just described is grounds to be thrown out. I have had opponents thrown out for doing this. Some get multiple warnings, others are thown out on the first complaint.

Getting upset over suspected collusion is different. You should have better handled that situation. The suspected colluders would have been the ones getting the warning.

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where does he say he berated anyone?

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Old 11-21-2005, 12:35 PM
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I would think a player would need multiple visits from the floor before getting tossed for language / abuse.

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I'm sure you'll find out firsthand soon enough.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:35 PM
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Berating players as you just described is grounds to be thrown out. I have had opponents thrown out for doing this. Some get multiple warnings, others are thown out on the first complaint.

Getting upset over suspected collusion is different. You should have better handled that situation. The suspected colluders would have been the ones getting the warning.

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where does he say he berated anyone?

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nicknaming some nit "old man winter" is not "berating" someone. Neither, necessarily is the use of the f-bomb over collusion. The collusion part may have been berating them but it doesn't explicitly say that. If someone were colluding, I may say, "What the [censored]?" That's not berating them.

Again, I'm not saying the op wasn't being a complete ass here, just that none of this sounds "abusive" to me.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:35 PM
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I think the answer to your question can be found here.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:41 PM
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Saying it once or twice in jest is fine. Repeating it again and again when it's clear it's annoying the guy is abuse. Most of this is just common sense. Basically, your right to swing your arm ends where the other guy's nose begins.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:42 PM
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Berating players as you just described is grounds to be thrown out. I have had opponents thrown out for doing this. Some get multiple warnings, others are thown out on the first complaint.

Getting upset over suspected collusion is different. You should have better handled that situation. The suspected colluders would have been the ones getting the warning.

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where does he say he berated anyone?

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nicknaming some nit "old man winter" is not "berating" someone. Neither, necessarily is the use of the f-bomb over collusion. The collusion part may have been berating them but it doesn't explicitly say that. If someone were colluding, I may say, "What the [censored]?" That's not berating them.

Again, I'm not saying the op wasn't being a complete ass here, just that none of this sounds "abusive" to me.

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and that's why this entire thread serves as a reminder that i should always bring headphones to the table with me.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: Getting thrown out of a Vegas poker room

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Berating players as you just described is grounds to be thrown out. I have had opponents thrown out for doing this. Some get multiple warnings, others are thown out on the first complaint.

Getting upset over suspected collusion is different. You should have better handled that situation. The suspected colluders would have been the ones getting the warning.

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where does he say he berated anyone?

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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nicjnaming some nit "old man winter" is not "berating" someone. Neither, necessarily is the use of the f-bomb over collusion. The collusion part may have been berating them but it doesn't explicitly say that. If someone were colluding, I mayb say, "What the [censored]?" That's not berating them.

Again, I'm not saying the op wasn't being a complete ass here, just that none of this sounds "abusive" to me.

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Ok, this is taking a wrong turn.

1. I am a jerk / tool whatever, I know this, thank you all for reminding of this.
2. I was not berating. An old nit who was horrible for the game found himself with a nickname. I will make players bad for the game feel uncomfortable, players good for the game feel welcome, this is standard. See point #1 if you do not like this.
3. With the collusion, I did not berate, my response was something like "what the [censored], that is [censored] you cheating [censored]", again standard. They know I know and I know they know I know or such.
4. I am a drunk not an alcholic, alcoholics go to meetings. My behavior with zero drinks actually may have been much worse. See point #1.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Getting thrown out of a Vegas poker room

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Saying it once or twice in jest is fine. Repeating it again and again when it's clear it's annoying the guy is abuse. Most of this is just common sense. Basically, your right to swing your arm ends where the other guy's nose begins.

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As far as I'm concerned your last sentence is completely correct and that's the only thing that's really abuse. But I understand the casinos want to keep as many people happy as possible and make it an enjoyable expereince for everyone. Still unless he's loud and yelling it across the table at the guy or something, then calling a silly nickname for someone "abuse" is just the epitomy of nittiness.

Again, I'm not defending the op. My guess is he was just generally being a drunken ass and this was an excuse.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:47 PM
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Ok, this is taking a wrong turn.

1. I am a jerk / tool whatever, I know this, thank you all for reminding of this.
2. I was not berating. An old nit who was horrible for the game found himself with a nickname. I will make players bad for the game feel uncomfortable, players good for the game feel welcome, this is standard. See point #1 if you do not like this.
3. With the collusion, I did not berate, my response was something like "what the [censored], that is [censored] you cheating [censored]", again standard. They know I know and I know they know I know or such.
4. I am a drunk not an alcholic, alcoholics go to meetings. My behavior with zero drinks actually may have been much worse. See point #1.

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since it's clear that you and some others don't know what "berate" actuatlly means, here's a hint:

berate: to scold severely; upbraid.
upbraid: to reproach or criticize harshly.
reproach: to rebuke, blame, or shame.

if you don't believe that #3 counts (and arguably #2 as well) as berating, you have more problems than i already thought.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:48 PM
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I'm sure you've been properly flammed but I have to admit I laughed out loud at this one.
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there was this nitty old tourist who I decided should be referred to as old man winter.

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