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Old 10-06-2005, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

something must be rigged
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

You are going to get the doom switch if you keep cashing out!!!
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

This post has left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Thanks.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

Zetack,

Thank you for an honest response. I am aware of what you are saying. I have been playing online for years. I think people are getting the wrong idea - I am not claiming rigging or anything like that.

Just observing the frequency with which my favorites are holding up on one site vs. the other. Granted the sampling size is much smaller on one than the other. And even if they were the same that doesn't prove anything. I am a very tight player and usually only play big hands. I am getting the same amount of big hands on both sites it just 'seems' to hold up much more often on Party (so far).
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

I get much better results with the Orange deck. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

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This post has left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Thanks.

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Old 10-06-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

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Granted the sampling size is much smaller on one than the other.

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Not really, when you need over 5K+ samples 10 and 100 aren't too different.

If you truly realized this was just variance you would realize there was no need for this thread. You do think it's rigged, don't try to kid yourself.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

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Granted the sampling size is much smaller on one than the other.

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Not really, when you need over 5K+ samples 10 and 100 aren't too different.

If you truly realized this was just variance you would realize there was no need for this thread. You do think it's rigged, don't try to kid yourself.

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Mathematically speaking you are correct about the sample size.

As far as rigging - I am just saying the shuffle algorithms are different. There is no 'evil' intent. Have you ever played in a casino where they have automated shufflers vs one where the dealer shuffles. Do you think the distribution of hands is identical over a large sample size?
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

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Do you think the distribution of hands is identical over a large sample size?

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No, it's clearly rigged.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: There IS a difference between Party and Pokerstars tournaments.

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I understand variance and all the rest.

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It doesn't sound like it.

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I have played around 100 tournaments on Pokerstars and I have lost with the best hand about 90% of the time.

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Is this based on your impressions and recollections, or on empirical data? What is "the best hand"? If 2 players go all in on the flop, the outcome is often a virtual coin flip. Sometimes the hand that is ahead on the flop is not the statistical favorite to win.

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Even, tho I have only played around 10 tournaments on Party I have not lost with the best hand once. It is always a matter of being blinded out.

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Same questions as above. Also, the 100 hand sample above is meaninglessly small, and a 10 hand sample is not even worth discussing.
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