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Normal night, chat with parents during the entire ride. 5 11.90%
Stay up all night playing poker. Sleep during the ride. 37 88.10%
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:00 PM
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at my local cardroom, winstar casino, the wait is typically at least 1 hour...if you're lucky. they recently installed 4 of these tables, and i played one prior to getting a seat in a real game.

i think some people are missing some of the benefits to the machines.
1. some people who don't know any better come to a b&m room to get interaction from real people. while people say they'd rather just sit at home on the comp if they don't have chips, you're missing the point of there actually being real people sitting around you.
2. the guy talking about collusion might not realize there actually is a call floor button on the machine, and there is a guy not 20 ft away from the tables.
3. at my casino, the lowest live limit is 4/8, but you can play 1/2 on the machines...this allows some people to play at a more comfortable level. also, for the poker newbies, this allows you to get a feel for the game without having to look like a total donk at the live table.
4. adding to the live peole thing, you actually can still pick up tells on people rather easily at these things. it takes away some tells like how they may throw their chips in the pot, but adds others like how they hit the bet or check button etc.

having said all that, i don't really like the things. as i see it, it's just a way to keep the fishies happy. however, if you want to find the softest games, you know where to look.

one last note....i wonder how much they had to pay chan and dolly to endorse these bad boys. you know there's no way in hell that chan is playing the 1k/2k at a video machine.

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Old 12-23-2005, 08:03 PM
Quicksilvre Quicksilvre is offline
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What's the third player gonna do? Push the "call floor" button and hope they have a microphone in the table? It could turn into a real nightmare.

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I assume there would be a microphone for just this occasion.
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Old 12-24-2005, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: Poll: would you sit at an electronic table at a B&M room?

i guess im in the very few who would like these things. true, if i wanted to play electronic poker i could just play at home, but there just isnt the same kind of action that there is live, and most of those live players will never be online. if this would do something to lower the brutal rake at the LA card clubs, and make those donks play 80 or more hands an hour it would be totally worth it, ESPECIALLY for omaha. Live limit O/8 is dealt so slow live its not even worth playing at low stakes, but if the hands/hr could get bumped up to even 40-50, it would be a gold mine. Although I'd hate to see dealers lose their jobs and me have no chips to play with, I think overall it would make up for it in $/hr.
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Old 12-24-2005, 01:16 AM
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I played a SnG on one, once at Hard Rock in Hollywood Fla.

Overall experience -- the machine is a bit of a PITA. Give me a flesh and blood dealer please. That being said, if I was desparate for a game, and the wait looked like much more than a half an hour for a real dealer, I'd at least consider it again.

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how much faster was it? if at all
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:39 AM
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$30+$10 NLHE tournament

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Holy [censored] that's a vig
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Old 12-24-2005, 01:15 PM
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how much faster was it? if at all

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It took the players a bit longer than average to futz with the betting options on the machine, but the dealing was a bit faster, so it's probably break even.
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Old 12-24-2005, 02:43 PM
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This idea combines the worst aspects of online & B&M: You don't have the convenience of playing in your own home, and you don't even get to feel chips in your hand or look at/talk to/socialize with other players. I would rather have a laptop in my hotel room and play online than do this.
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Poll: would you sit at an electronic table at a B&M room?

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$30+$10 NLHE tournament

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Holy [censored] that's a vig

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When you're the only game in town, you can charge usurious rates and get away with it. The dog tracks around Tampa charge $13 vig on $32 entry fee.

And btw - the tournament ran SLOWER than a cards and chips tournament, since the machine requires you to double-click to confirm an action, and no one could get the hang of it.

I was bored and freerolling, so I won't be playing it again.
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:05 PM
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HOWEVER, the previous poster who stated that the machines may catch on in locales that only allow machine gaming is onto something. I worked for a few months at the Harrah's in Cherokee, NC, where only video gaming is allowed.

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Yeah, I live near Cherokee, NC, and if they installed a poker room of these tables, then I'd probably find my way over there pretty regularily. I'd prefer it if they let the players use chips instead of electronic money, like they do in the electronic blackjack pit there. And I'd prefer regular old cards and chips even more.

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Old 12-25-2005, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Poll: would you sit at an electronic table at a B&M room?

I just heard that these had been installed at my local casino, which had previously been just slots and blackjack. There had been talk of adding poker for a while, so I was disappointed when I heard that they went with the electronic tables, but it makes some sense because I doubt they'll be able to keep games going very regularly except during the summer tourist season. Even so, it's less than 5 minutes from my parents' house, so I'll give it a shot sometime. I'm thinking that if I had more shorthanded experience, this place could be a goldmine. I was happy to hear a couple of days ago that they still plan to open 4 tables with actual dealers in a week or so, but I wouldn't be surprised if the electronic tables are the only options during the dead times.

I haven't tried the electonic tables yet, but FWIW, I voted live dealers. I hate the slow pace of live play and I usually get bored relatively quickly. I still enjoy it enough to play live every so often though. Part of the fun of it is playing with real chips and cards. If I can't get that, I'd rather stay at home and play 250 hands/hr instead of 30. I'll still give the electronic tables a try, but I don't expect to like it too much.
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