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#42
10-21-2005, 02:20 PM
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Re: very deep stars 10/20
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durrr- looks good so far. now stop messing around and spike on this guy. i am predicting a river Kx, check, check, and durr scoops. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Yep. Villains 57[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is no good. 
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#44
10-22-2005, 12:58 PM
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Re: very deep stars 10/20
against this guy, i am pushing everytime with a set here.
from everyone's descriptions of him, he could easily have some sort of two way draw which he will call a push with. and if he folds a weird onepair hand, so be it.
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#45
10-22-2005, 01:32 PM
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Re: very deep stars 10/20
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against this guy, i am pushing everytime with a set here. from everyone's descriptions of him, he could easily have some sort of two way draw which he will call a push with. and if he folds a weird onepair hand, so be it. [/ QUOTE ] I agree... but don't you think he knows this? In other words i think my only chance to win the pot unimproved is right here- because any hand which i would value bet on the river i would push on the turn. IMO even if i had AJ or something and thought it was good i would push the turn- becuase if he is bluffing he definitely has a lot of outs. I think if i call not 1c more goes into the pot from me unless i hit, or a card completing another draw hits(which there are a lot of).
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#46
10-22-2005, 01:48 PM
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Re: very deep stars 10/20
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[ QUOTE ] against this guy, i am pushing everytime with a set here. from everyone's descriptions of him, he could easily have some sort of two way draw which he will call a push with. and if he folds a weird onepair hand, so be it. [/ QUOTE ] I agree... but don't you think he knows this? In other words i think my only chance to win the pot unimproved is right here- because any hand which i would value bet on the river i would push on the turn. IMO even if i had AJ or something and thought it was good i would push the turn- becuase if he is bluffing he definitely has a lot of outs. I think if i call not 1c more goes into the pot from me unless i hit, or a card completing another draw hits(which there are a lot of). [/ QUOTE ] not sure if you were disagreeing with a point in my post or not, but i agree with all the above.
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#47
10-22-2005, 02:48 PM
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Re: very deep stars 10/20
the hting that doesn't make sense about this logic is given how drawy the board is, for you to call on the turn and push a completed draw A)forfeits the money when he pushes unimproved on his missed draw of 7 high or whatever and B) if he completes his draw he might realize exactly what you've said about turn pushing v calling and check his completed draw, letting you bluff it. given how little we know about his hand right now and how wide his range is, i think it is imprudent to use this as your line if he knows what you assume he knows about what a turn call implies.
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#48
10-22-2005, 03:21 PM
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the hting that doesn't make sense about this logic is given how drawy the board is, for you to call on the turn and push a completed draw A)forfeits the money when he pushes unimproved on his missed draw of 7 high or whatever and B) if he completes his draw he might realize exactly what you've said about turn pushing v calling and check his completed draw, letting you bluff it. given how little we know about his hand right now and how wide his range is, i think it is imprudent to use this as your line if he knows what you assume he knows about what a turn call implies. [/ QUOTE ] I agree, basically im in an awful spot if i call IMO. Which is why i wish i pushd (i calld and missed like a donkey) He pushed the river (it was a blank not sure what i'll post later no time now).
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#49
10-22-2005, 05:45 PM
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Re: very deep stars 10/20
Move all in on the turn, you had 15 outs if you are called. Which i doubt u will be. Very simple
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